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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Yan Seiner <yan@seiner.com>
Cc: linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Port multiplier resets
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:23:28 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4924D830.8010103@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4924D410.3030901@seiner.com>

Yan Seiner wrote:
> Tejun Heo wrote:
>> Yan Seiner wrote:
>>  
>>> Sorry for the delayed response.  I've installed another controller based
>>> on the SiI 3132 chipset.  The esata array is the same; I've simply moved
>>> the esata cables to the new controller.  My observations:
>>>
>>> 1.  The JMicron 20360/20363 AHCI Controller (rev 03) controller is far,
>>> far slower.  hdparm clocks it at 20 mb/sec and a raid check takes about
>>> 15 hours.
>>>     
>>
>> Hmm... That's probably due to lack of FIS based switching support.
>> The hardware (20360/3) can't do it and ahci doesn't support it yet
>> either.  So, only commands to one drive can be in flight at any given
>> moment which is usually pretty bad for RAID.
>>   
> So is there hope that FIS switching will make it into the driver or is
> this a hardware limitation?  I have some time (months if not a year or
> two) before I really start to populate my external disk pack.  (I have
> 20 slots with 4 - 5 port multipliers.)

20360/3 don't support them in hardware but there are controllers which
do and ahci driver will be updated to support them.

>> As said above, if you're running RAID on top of it, command based
>> switching will hurt bad.  And 110Mb/s is about the limit of sil3132.
>>   
> I'm OK with the speed of the sil controller.  I'm concerned about the
> slow speed of the jmicron controller - it's about 1/3 to 1/5 as fast.

Yeah, that's the difference coming from FIS and command based switching.

> OK, thanks.  I'll check the drive jumpers and see about setting the
> lower speed.

No, you don't have to do that.  You can just use libata.force parameter.
 ie. if the JMB one is ATA host 3, you can say libata.force=3:1.5Gbps.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-20  3:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-02 15:10 Port multiplier resets Yan Seiner
2008-11-11  9:06 ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-19 15:15   ` Yan Seiner
2008-11-20  2:27     ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-20  3:05       ` Yan Seiner
2008-11-20  3:23         ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2008-11-20  3:19   ` Yan Seiner
2008-11-20  3:24     ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-22 16:48       ` Yan Seiner
2008-11-23  0:53         ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-25  4:44           ` Yan Seiner

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