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From: Tejun Heo <teheo@suse.de>
To: Dongjun Shin <djshin90@gmail.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dwmw2@infradead.org, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	chris.mason@oracle.com, Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Subject: Re: about TRIM/DISCARD support and barriers
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:45:27 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <492A3F77.30009@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7fe698080811232140ie896cc8m735a25261f447c47@mail.gmail.com>

Dongjun Shin wrote:
>> So, can you please confirm that, what we eventually get is simple TRIM
>> w/ multiple ranges?  Which, BTW, makes sense as it's something the
>> device can't infer from the access pattern.  Also, if there still is
>> wiggle room, what would be a worthy optimization is to allow TRIM
>> commands to be sent together with other NCQ commands as otherwise the
>> drive will have to drain all other commands to process a TRIM command
>> which will be inefficient.
>>
> 
> AFAIK, only the trim feature of data set management command will be included
> and a single trim may contain multiple ranges. But, it's not possible to send
> non-read/write command during NCQ as specified by the t13(1).

Yeah, I know the scheduling restriction and that's exactly why I was
asking.  To rephrase: I think it would be nice to make TRIM an NCQ
command as it's likely to get mixed with regular IO traffic a lot but
maybe we can schedule it strategically such that it follows FLUSH or the
queue is mostly idle.  Anyways, if someone knows anyone working on this,
please feel free to poke.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-24  5:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-23  4:46 about TRIM/DISCARD support and barriers Tejun Heo
2008-11-23  7:11 ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-23  7:57   ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-24  5:40     ` Dongjun Shin
2008-11-24  5:45       ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2008-11-24  5:57       ` James Bottomley
2008-11-23 12:35   ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-23 13:39     ` David Woodhouse
2008-11-23 22:52       ` James Bottomley
2008-11-24  9:03         ` David Woodhouse
2008-11-24 18:42           ` James Bottomley
2008-11-24 18:52             ` David Woodhouse
2008-11-24 18:57               ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-24 19:08                 ` James Bottomley
2008-11-25  9:16                   ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-24 19:09               ` James Bottomley
2008-11-25  3:28           ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-25  9:15             ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-24  3:01       ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-28 13:21 ` Raz Ben-Yehuda
2008-11-29 22:57   ` Tejun Heo

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