From: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru.mvista.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: "Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz" <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
"Dan Noé" <dpn@isomerica.net>,
"James Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
"FUJITA Tomonori" <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
osst@riede.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] remove ide-scsi
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 03:08:06 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <493B13E6.3010807@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081206233235.2a3f1602@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Hello.
Alan Cox wrote:
>>> - Full SATA and NCQ aware platform support.
>>>
>>>
>> I don't see how SATA/NCQ support is connected to SCSI.
>>
>
> Because the chunks of scsi midlayer we inherit (actually nowdays mostly
> block) are the pieces you need anyway to do multiple command queues,
>
Er, what does this term mean? Several queues per device or a tagged
queue?
> error recovery from multiple pending commands, barriers and all the other
> nasty sequencing and recovery stuff.
>
So, you're just presenting SCSI emulation as a "lesser evil". But 5
years seems a long enough term to unbind all that stuff from SCSI.
>> directly into SoC's own GPIO, not an expander) -- which requires the
>> drivers to call the platform code hooks. :-(
>>
>
> Embedded system design in my experience primarily consists of shooting
> yourself and the programmer in the foot simultaenously with automatic
> weapons while attempting to save 2 cents/unit
>
Some h/w designers and programmers do indeed deserve to be shot. :-D
> Alan
>
MBR, Sergei
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-07 0:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-03 1:38 [PATCH] remove ide-scsi FUJITA Tomonori
2008-12-03 10:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-03 13:31 ` Willem Riede
2008-12-03 13:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-12-03 14:02 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-03 15:09 ` James Bottomley
2008-12-06 6:12 ` Pete Zaitcev
2008-12-06 14:06 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-12-06 14:51 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-12-06 15:06 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-06 16:29 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-12-06 15:25 ` Willem Riede
2008-12-06 15:59 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-12-06 17:00 ` Dan Noé
2008-12-06 21:41 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-12-06 22:24 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-06 22:52 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-12-06 23:02 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-06 23:19 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-12-06 23:32 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 0:08 ` Sergei Shtylyov [this message]
2008-12-07 11:40 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 14:46 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-12-07 15:04 ` James Bottomley
2008-12-07 15:21 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-12-09 22:21 ` libata / scsi separation Matthew Wilcox
2008-12-09 22:38 ` James Bottomley
2008-12-10 3:37 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-12-10 1:54 ` Tejun Heo
2008-12-10 2:29 ` Grant Grundler
2008-12-10 2:47 ` Tejun Heo
2008-12-10 3:23 ` Grant Grundler
2008-12-10 3:44 ` Tejun Heo
2008-12-10 15:24 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-12-10 15:33 ` Tejun Heo
2008-12-10 16:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-12-10 17:11 ` Grant Grundler
2008-12-10 17:21 ` Grant Grundler
2008-12-07 0:19 ` [PATCH] remove ide-scsi Sergei Shtylyov
2008-12-07 9:59 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-12-07 10:41 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-12-09 21:41 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-12-10 17:46 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-12-06 23:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-12-06 23:42 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-12-06 23:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-12-07 3:36 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-12-07 4:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-12-07 5:07 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-12-07 11:00 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-12-09 19:59 ` Mark Lord
2008-12-09 20:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-12-09 21:04 ` James Bottomley
2008-12-06 23:45 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-12-06 23:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-12-06 23:40 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-12-06 23:51 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 0:56 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-12-07 1:14 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 10:32 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-12-06 23:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-12-06 22:33 ` Al Viro
2008-12-06 23:13 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-12-06 23:17 ` Willem Riede
2008-12-07 0:09 ` Al Viro
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