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From: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Moritz Rigler <moritz1234567@gmx.de>, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH #upstream-fixes] libata: implement and use   HORKAGE_NOSETXFER
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:11:00 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49669614.2080801@shaw.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090107142351.79749c05@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

Alan Cox wrote:
>> The problem appears at least on two models (Sony Vaio FW and Sony Vaio VGN-NS11S). So I really don't agree with you "one report, from one user, with one configuration, on one controller, using one firmware set" statement, Alan.
> 
> Thanks - yours was the only one I had seen references too. I don't spend
> my days reading the Ubuntu forums.
> 
>> (where issues like this have not been fixed yet).
> 
> Its probably a better idea to buy a computer that appears to work in the
> way it is expected yes. However there is more to making a good quality
> OS than running around flapping at every warped piece of hardware we
> meet. It would be good if this works but it would also be good to know
> therefore why it happens to work in Vista - are the delays longer, are
> they clearing some other undefined command bits that the spec says don't
> matter etc.
> 
> Simply saying 'oh it didn't work lets just pretend we don't care' isn't
> always a good idea, particuarly when the worst case failure for it on
> other devices where it indicates a real failing might be corruption of
> user data.
> 
> Yes - I'd like it to just work, but I'd like it to just work without
> breaking anything else, without adding device specific special cases and
> ideally in a way that makes other stuff that is similarly odd just work
> too.

I wonder if whatever storage driver Sony has it set up to run with in 
Vista is just skipping the set transfer mode command on SATA devices?

If you guys still have the Vista install, can you tell us what driver 
it's using in Windows (the Intel one, standard Microsoft AHCI, etc?)

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-09  0:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-07 14:15 [PATCH #upstream-fixes] libata: implement and use HORKAGE_NOSETXFER Moritz Rigler
2009-01-07 14:23 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-09  0:11   ` Robert Hancock [this message]
2009-01-15  5:48   ` Tejun Heo
2009-01-15  9:45     ` Alan Cox
2009-01-15 10:06       ` Tejun Heo
2009-01-15 13:48         ` Tejun Heo
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-01-07 14:18 Moritz Rigler
2008-12-21 21:18 PIONEER DVD-RW DVRTD08 is disabled if there is no disc present at boot time linux-ide
2008-12-22  0:22 ` Robert Hancock
2008-12-22 10:02   ` Tejun Heo
2008-12-22 12:13     ` linux-ide
2008-12-23  3:03       ` Tejun Heo
2008-12-24 13:40         ` linux-ide
2008-12-29  8:14           ` Tejun Heo
2008-12-29 21:32             ` linux-ide
2009-01-06 22:51               ` linux-ide
2009-01-07  2:01                 ` [PATCH #upstream-fixes] libata: implement and use HORKAGE_NOSETXFER Tejun Heo
2009-01-07  9:40                   ` Alan Cox
2009-01-07 10:27                     ` Tejun Heo
2009-01-07 10:53                       ` Alan Cox
2009-01-07 11:04                         ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-25  3:10                           ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-25  8:11                             ` Alan Cox
2009-07-08  8:00                               ` Tejun Heo
2009-07-08 10:14                                 ` Alan Cox
2009-07-08 11:16                                   ` Tejun Heo
2009-07-08 12:21                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-07-08 23:07                                       ` Tejun Heo
2009-07-08 14:53                                   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2009-07-08 15:06                                     ` Alan Cox

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