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From: Robert Hancock <hancockrwd@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>, Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: libata timeouts when stressing a Samsung HDD
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:28:45 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4993A57D.6010107@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49934D24.1050204@garzik.org>

Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Mark Lord wrote:
>> I wonder if it's just a case of too short a timeout on the cache flushes?
> 
> The answer in general to this question has always been "yes".....
> 
> Unless this has changed in the past year, the worst case for SATA cache 
> flush can definitely exceed 30 seconds...  it is unbounded as defined in 
> the spec, and unbounded in practice as well.
> 
> Of course, users' patience is not unbounded :)

Yeah, it's pretty ludicrous for a cache flush to potentially take that 
long. Theoretically if you had a 32MB write cache completely full with 
completely non-contiguous sectors you could end up with it taking 
something like 2 minutes or more to write out. However, the drive really 
should be ensuring that it doesn't build up so much in the write cache 
that a flush would takes this long - that is a lot of data that could be 
lost on an unexpected power-off.

However, in this case the drive is not reporting Busy status at the 
timeout, which suggests maybe an interrupt got lost or something. (Could 
be still the drive's fault.)

Chuck, when this happens can you tell if the disk sounds like it is 
grinding away until the timeout happens or is it just sitting there?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-12  4:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-02 21:40 libata timeouts when stressing a Samsung HDD Chuck Ebbert
2009-02-11  1:30 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-11  4:08   ` Mark Lord
2009-02-11 20:29     ` Chuck Ebbert
2009-02-11 22:03       ` Mark Lord
2009-02-11 22:11         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-02-11 22:29           ` Mark Lord
2009-02-11 22:54             ` Chuck Ebbert
2009-02-12 16:10               ` Mark Lord
2009-02-12 16:13                 ` Mark Lord
2009-02-16  3:12                   ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-16 21:30                     ` Chuck Ebbert
2009-02-19  6:21                       ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 16:41                         ` Greg Freemyer
2009-02-20  0:33                           ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-12  4:28           ` Robert Hancock [this message]
2009-02-19 15:27             ` Mark Lord
2009-02-20  0:32               ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  2:52                 ` Robert Hancock
2009-02-20  3:26                   ` Tejun Heo
2009-03-01 19:31                     ` Robert Hancock
2009-03-01 20:28                       ` Alan Cox
2009-02-11 20:24   ` Chuck Ebbert

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