From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Szabolcs Szakacsits <szaka@ntfs-3g.com>,
Grant Grundler <grundler@google.com>,
Linux IDE mailing list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Implementing NVMHCI...
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:37:45 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49E46779.1040106@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49E46437.5000804@garzik.org>
Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Speaking of RMW... in one sense, we have to deal with RMW anyway.
> Upcoming ATA hard drives will be configured with a normal 512b sector
> API interface, but underlying physical sector size is 1k or 4k.
>
> The disk performs the RMW for us, but we must be aware of physical
> sector size in order to determine proper alignment of on-disk data, to
> minimize RMW cycles.
>
Virtualization has the same issue. OS installers will typically setup
the first partition at sector 63, and that means every page-sized block
access will be misaligned. Particularly bad when the guest's disk is
backed on a regular file.
Windows 2008 aligns partitions on a 1MB boundary, IIRC.
> At the moment, it seems like most of the effort to get these ATA
> devices to perform efficiently is in getting partition / RAID stripe
> offsets set up properly.
>
> So perhaps for NVMHCI we could
> (a) hardcode NVM sector size maximum at 4k
> (b) do RMW in the driver for sector size >4k, and
Why not do it in the block layer? That way it isn't limited to one driver.
> (c) export information indicating the true sector size, in a manner
> similar to how the ATA driver passes that info to userland
> partitioning tools.
Eventually we'll want to allow filesystems to make use of the native
sector size.
--
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-14 10:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20090412091228.GA29937@elte.hu>
2009-04-12 15:14 ` Implementing NVMHCI Szabolcs Szakacsits
2009-04-12 15:20 ` Alan Cox
2009-04-12 16:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-12 17:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-13 6:32 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-13 15:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-13 15:38 ` James Bottomley
2009-04-14 7:22 ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-14 10:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-14 9:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-14 10:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-14 10:37 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-04-14 11:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-14 11:58 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2009-04-17 22:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-14 12:08 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-14 12:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-25 8:26 ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-12 15:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-12 17:02 ` Robert Hancock
2009-04-12 17:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-12 18:35 ` Robert Hancock
2009-04-13 11:18 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-12 17:23 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <6934efce0904141052j3d4f87cey9fc4b802303aa73b@mail.gmail.com>
2009-04-15 6:37 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-30 22:51 ` Jörn Engel
2009-04-30 23:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-11 17:33 Jeff Garzik
2009-04-11 19:32 ` Alan Cox
2009-04-11 19:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11 20:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-11 21:49 ` Grant Grundler
2009-04-11 22:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-12 5:08 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-11 23:25 ` Alan Cox
2009-04-11 23:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-12 0:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-12 1:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-12 1:15 ` david
2009-04-12 3:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-12 14:23 ` Mark Lord
2009-04-12 17:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-11 19:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-11 21:08 ` John Stoffel
2009-04-11 21:31 ` John Stoffel
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