From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
rwheeler@redhat.com, snitzer@redhat.com, neilb@suse.de,
James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com, dgilbert@interlog.com,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5 of 8] sd: Detect non-rotational devices
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:58:21 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49F057DD.6090009@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090423113841.GK1926@parisc-linux.org>
Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 07:09:37AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>> + /* Block Device Characteristics VPD */
>>>> + buffer = scsi_get_vpd_page(sdkp->device, 0xb1);
>>>> +
>>>> + if (buffer == NULL)
>>>> + return;
>>>> +
>>>> + rot = get_unaligned_be16(&buffer[4]);
>>> Make sure this works for libata as well, and then kill the rotational
>>> check in there instead.
>> Yep. libata-scsi.c would need to simulate that VPD page.
>
> I already did that. The only problem is that you made me include the stupid:
>
> if (ata_id_major_version(args->id) > 7) {
>
> so of course it doesn't work on any existing hardware. How about
> applying this patch:
>
> ----
>
> libata: fill in b1 page for all drives, not just ATA-8
>
> Some of the drives on the market fill in the rotational speed and form
> factor correctly, even though they claim support for an earlier version
> of ATA. The current ata_id_is_ssd() code doesn't check the version
> number and doesn't appear to have caused any trouble. Besides, SCSI devices
> are also capable of returning garbage in these fields.
>
> Signed-off-by: Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
>
> diff --git a/drivers/ata/libata-scsi.c b/drivers/ata/libata-scsi.c
> index 2733b0c..59358ca 100644
> --- a/drivers/ata/libata-scsi.c
> +++ b/drivers/ata/libata-scsi.c
> @@ -2144,11 +2144,9 @@ static unsigned int ata_scsiop_inq_b1(struct ata_scsi_args *args, u8 *rbuf)
> {
> rbuf[1] = 0xb1;
> rbuf[3] = 0x3c;
> - if (ata_id_major_version(args->id) > 7) {
> - rbuf[4] = args->id[217] >> 8;
> - rbuf[5] = args->id[217];
> - rbuf[7] = args->id[168] & 0xf;
> - }
> + rbuf[4] = args->id[217] >> 8;
> + rbuf[5] = args->id[217];
> + rbuf[7] = args->id[168] & 0xf;
Thus returning undefined garbage for the vast majority of ATA devices?
Might as well admit that a call to get_random_bytes() is a valid
implementation, at that point.
Linux users deserve more than that :)
If you want to find a better test than "version > 7", that is fine.
Surely a few minutes of thinking and a few minutes of research will
yield a reasonable hueristic, that gives a reasonable estimation of
when/if these fields are valid?
linux/ata.h is filled with examples of proper range checking -- ensuring
that a range of IDENTIFY DEVICE words are valid. There are also typical
tests such as assuming values other than 0x0000 and 0xffff are valid.
>> Also (to mkp or whoever does the work) -- note Linus's comment, and my
>> provisional patch[1], about libata potentially wanting to detect NONROT
>> by looking for "*SSD" from IDENTIFY DEVICE'S model string.
>
> Found it ... and Jens' suggestion that this be done in userspace instead.
It is trivial to do in the kernel, where we already match against model
info for a long list of quirks.
Therefore, I think the Just Works(tm) value to SSD owners is higher.
That way old userlands work with SSDs too.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-23 11:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-23 5:29 [PATCH 0 of 8] I/O topology patch kit Martin K. Petersen
2009-04-23 5:29 ` [PATCH 1 of 8] block: Expose stacked device queues in sysfs Martin K. Petersen
2009-04-23 5:29 ` [PATCH 2 of 8] block: Export I/O topology for block devices and partitions Martin K. Petersen
2009-04-23 10:51 ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-23 11:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-04-23 11:55 ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-23 13:22 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-04-23 13:30 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-04-23 13:17 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-04-23 18:13 ` Konrad Rzeszutek
2009-04-23 18:26 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-04-23 18:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-04-23 18:34 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-04-23 5:29 ` [PATCH 3 of 8] MD: Use new topology calls to indicate alignment and I/O sizes Martin K. Petersen
2009-04-23 5:29 ` [PATCH 4 of 8] sd: Physical block size and alignment support Martin K. Petersen
2009-04-23 16:37 ` Konrad Rzeszutek
2009-04-23 18:25 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-04-23 18:44 ` Konrad Rzeszutek
2009-04-23 19:02 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-04-23 5:29 ` [PATCH 5 of 8] sd: Detect non-rotational devices Martin K. Petersen
2009-04-23 10:52 ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-23 11:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-23 11:13 ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-23 11:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-23 11:38 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-04-23 11:58 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2009-04-23 12:03 ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-23 13:16 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-04-23 13:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-23 14:10 ` James Bottomley
2009-04-23 14:16 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-04-23 14:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-23 17:25 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-04-23 17:37 ` James Bottomley
2009-04-23 5:29 ` [PATCH 6 of 8] sd: Block limits VPD support Martin K. Petersen
2009-04-23 5:29 ` [PATCH 7 of 8] scsi_debug: Add support for physical block exponent and alignment Martin K. Petersen
2009-04-23 5:29 ` [PATCH 8 of 8] libata: Report disk alignment and physical block size Martin K. Petersen
2009-04-23 13:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-04-23 14:05 ` Martin K. Petersen
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