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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Mauelshagen@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, jens.axboe@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET] block,scsi,libata: implement alt_size
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 17:02:47 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49FEA127.1000905@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e9c3a7c20904301415t621670a0l1bd64c7d74d369f@mail.gmail.com>

Dan Williams wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org> wrote:
>> Tejun Heo wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>>>> <shrug>  I suppose...
>>>>
>>>> It just seems like a nasty hack, but unfortunately I don't see
>>>> anyone stepping up to do it properly -- with a DM device
>>>> automatically layered on top that splits the device into separate
>>>> regions: one block device for the 'regular' area, and one for the
>>>> HPA.
>>> Isn't that more hacky?  I don't know.  All that dm needs to know is
>>> the location of the metadata which is located w.r.t. the end of the
>>> device which might be at a different location if BIOS tried to pull
>>> silly stunts.  So, exporting the size BIOS might have used seems like
>>> a straight forward solution to me.
>> "<shrug> I suppose" is basically a reluctant ack, in the absence of other
>> solutions :)
>>
> 
> Couldn't the "fix" also just be a note to users to disable ignore_hpa
> if they notice that there raid arrays are not assembling correctly?

I don't know.  If it doesn't work automatically, the solution really
isn't worth much.  People generally don't (shouldn't need to) have any
idea what HPA is.  It basically boils down to "Linux doesn't support
RAID".  :-)

Maybe we should just put this issue to the rest and strongly advise
people against BIOS raids.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-04  8:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-01  2:55 [PATCHSET] block,scsi,libata: implement alt_size Tejun Heo
2009-02-01  2:55 ` [PATCH 1/3] block: add alt_size Tejun Heo
2009-02-01  2:55 ` [PATCH 2/3] scsi: add scsi_device->alt_capacity Tejun Heo
2009-02-01  2:55 ` [PATCH 3/3] libata: export HPA size as alt_size Tejun Heo
2009-02-02 17:12   ` [PATCH] libata: change drive ready wait after hard reset to 5s Stuart_Hayes
2009-02-02 17:17     ` Mario Limonciello
2009-02-09 21:48     ` Stuart_Hayes
2009-02-01  2:59 ` [PATCHSET] dmraid: use alt_size Tejun Heo
2009-02-01  3:00   ` [PATCH 1/3] dmraid: set read_info to @offset by default in read_raid_dev() Tejun Heo
2009-02-01  3:00   ` [PATCH 2/3] dmraid: add alt_size to dev_info Tejun Heo
2009-02-01  3:01   ` [PATCH 3/3] dmraid: make nv use alt_size if available Tejun Heo
2009-02-01  3:20 ` [PATCHSET] block,scsi,libata: implement alt_size Jeff Garzik
2009-02-01  4:14   ` Tejun Heo
2009-04-30  1:13 ` Tejun Heo
2009-04-30  1:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-30  1:50   ` Tejun Heo
2009-04-30 20:00     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-30 21:15       ` Dan Williams
2009-05-04  8:02         ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2009-05-04 16:48           ` Dan Williams
2009-05-05  3:28             ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-05 15:34               ` Dan Williams
2009-05-08  9:13                 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-08 16:21                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-08 16:23                   ` Dan Williams

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