From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, jens.axboe@oracle.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com, Mauelshagen@redhat.com,
dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET] block,scsi,libata: implement alt_size
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 12:28:53 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49FFB275.7000507@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e9c3a7c20905040948m572e23dj1aa197dbd20ff037@mail.gmail.com>
Hello,
Dan Williams wrote:
> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
>>> Couldn't the "fix" also just be a note to users to disable ignore_hpa
>>> if they notice that there raid arrays are not assembling correctly?
>> I don't know. If it doesn't work automatically, the solution really
>> isn't worth much. People generally don't (shouldn't need to) have any
>> idea what HPA is. It basically boils down to "Linux doesn't support
>> RAID". :-)
>>
>> Maybe we should just put this issue to the rest and strongly advise
>> people against BIOS raids.
>
> That's a bit too far :-). The real issue is that Linux is ignoring a
> property of the platform. To me ignoring HPA is like ignoring an e820
> reserved memory region. You might be able to get away with it
> sometimes, but other times it breaks.
Well, somewhat but not quite. The difference is with backward
compatibility and the fact that HPA has been used for many different
creative ;-) purposes including working around BIOS limitations.
> However, in the end I think having 'alt_size' available is a useful
> mechanism for discovering and handling the ignore_hpa=1 case. The
> policy about when to trust it can be left to userspace.
Pushing this in the kernel without updating dm-raid is kind of
pointless. Who should I be poking to get the userland part moving?
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-05 3:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-01 2:55 [PATCHSET] block,scsi,libata: implement alt_size Tejun Heo
2009-02-01 2:55 ` [PATCH 1/3] block: add alt_size Tejun Heo
2009-02-01 2:55 ` [PATCH 2/3] scsi: add scsi_device->alt_capacity Tejun Heo
2009-02-01 2:55 ` [PATCH 3/3] libata: export HPA size as alt_size Tejun Heo
2009-02-02 17:12 ` [PATCH] libata: change drive ready wait after hard reset to 5s Stuart_Hayes
2009-02-02 17:17 ` Mario Limonciello
2009-02-09 21:48 ` Stuart_Hayes
2009-02-01 2:59 ` [PATCHSET] dmraid: use alt_size Tejun Heo
2009-02-01 3:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] dmraid: set read_info to @offset by default in read_raid_dev() Tejun Heo
2009-02-01 3:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] dmraid: add alt_size to dev_info Tejun Heo
2009-02-01 3:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] dmraid: make nv use alt_size if available Tejun Heo
2009-02-01 3:20 ` [PATCHSET] block,scsi,libata: implement alt_size Jeff Garzik
2009-02-01 4:14 ` Tejun Heo
2009-04-30 1:13 ` Tejun Heo
2009-04-30 1:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-30 1:50 ` Tejun Heo
2009-04-30 20:00 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-30 21:15 ` Dan Williams
2009-05-04 8:02 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-04 16:48 ` Dan Williams
2009-05-05 3:28 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2009-05-05 15:34 ` Dan Williams
2009-05-08 9:13 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-08 16:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-08 16:23 ` Dan Williams
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