From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
bharrosh@panasas.com, axboe@kernel.dk,
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dgilbert@interlog.com, djwong@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/11] block: add rq->resid_len
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:19:32 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A08C094.2060602@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1242051500.3338.9.camel@mulgrave.int.hansenpartnership.com>
Hello, all.
James Bottomley wrote:
>>> Does resid_len make any sense w/ failed requests? I think we would be
>>> better off with declaring residual count to be undefined on request
>>> failure. Is there any place which depends on it?
>> IIRC, I wrote the code. I think that this doesn't matter but it's
>> better not to change the behavior unless Eric ack on this change
>> (maybe LSI has some management binary that assume this behavior though
>> it's unlikely).
>
> Actually, yes it does, for many possible reasons.
>
> The first being if the device is too stupid to report an actual sector
> location the next best way of determining where the error occurred is
> from the residual. We don't make use of this in kernel (perhaps we
> should?) but some of the user space programs for CD/DVD burning do.
Really? Residual count on command success is used but on failure?
That's a dangerous territory. When a SG_IO fails, the only data the
app should be accessing is the sense data if the status indicates its
validity. The problems with residual count on failed command are...
* Not well defined. What does it mean really? It can't indicate
successful partial transfer. If the request partially succeeded,
the required behavior is to successfully complete the request
partially with residual count and then fail the latter part when
issued again. If the failure applies to the whole request but
location information is useful, it should be carried in the sense
data.
* What about corner values? What does 0 or full resid count on
failure mean?
* Different layers of failing. In SG_IO interface, a request may fail
with -EIO way before it reaches block layer. Residual count can't
be set to any meaningful value in these cases. We can set it to
full count for these fast fail paths, but do we really wanna go
there? Another problem is when a driver is missing SG_IO
capability. Who's responsible for setting resid count in that case?
How is upper layer gonna determine a SG_IO failed because lower
level driver didn't support it or it genuinely failed?
I think it's just silly to give any meaning to resid count when the
request fails. It's best to leave the field unmodified or just
declare it undefined.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-12 0:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-04 7:58 [GIT PATCH] block,scsi,ide: unify sector and data_len, take#2 Tejun Heo
2009-05-04 7:58 ` [PATCH 01/11] nbd: don't clear rq->sector and nr_sectors unnecessarily Tejun Heo
2009-05-04 7:58 ` [PATCH 02/11] ide-tape: don't initialize rq->sector for rw requests Tejun Heo
2009-05-04 7:58 ` [PATCH 03/11] block: add rq->resid_len Tejun Heo
2009-05-04 12:08 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2009-05-05 3:41 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-07 10:23 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-10 14:07 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-05-10 23:48 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-11 5:49 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-11 14:18 ` James Bottomley
2009-05-11 15:03 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-11 15:13 ` James Bottomley
2009-05-11 23:47 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-12 0:19 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2009-05-12 3:43 ` James Bottomley
2009-05-12 6:04 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-12 14:08 ` James Bottomley
2009-05-12 14:34 ` Alan Stern
2009-05-12 15:17 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-12 15:45 ` James Bottomley
2009-05-13 6:30 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-11 11:31 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-05-11 14:59 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-12 8:58 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-05-12 15:00 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-12 15:08 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-05-12 15:16 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-12 0:27 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-12 8:46 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-05-12 9:07 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-12 9:10 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-12 9:52 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-05-12 10:06 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-12 11:08 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-05-12 15:20 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-12 15:53 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-05-04 7:58 ` [PATCH 04/11] block: implement blk_rq_pos/[cur_]sectors() and convert obvious ones Tejun Heo
2009-05-04 13:45 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2009-05-05 3:42 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-04 7:58 ` [PATCH 05/11] block: convert to pos and nr_sectors accessors Tejun Heo
2009-05-04 19:48 ` Adrian McMenamin
2009-05-05 3:42 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-04 7:58 ` [PATCH 06/11] ide: convert to rq " Tejun Heo
2009-05-04 7:58 ` [PATCH 07/11] block: drop request->hard_* and *nr_sectors Tejun Heo
2009-05-04 7:58 ` [PATCH 08/11] block: cleanup rq->data_len usages Tejun Heo
2009-05-04 14:41 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2009-05-11 12:02 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-05-04 7:58 ` [PATCH 09/11] ide: " Tejun Heo
2009-05-04 7:58 ` [PATCH 10/11] block: hide request sector and data_len Tejun Heo
2009-05-04 7:58 ` [PATCH 11/11] block: blk_rq_[cur_]_{sectors|bytes}() usage cleanup Tejun Heo
2009-05-05 3:59 ` [GIT PATCH] block,scsi,ide: unify sector and data_len, take#2 Tejun Heo
2009-05-07 2:48 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-07 10:23 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-08 2:06 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-08 9:11 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-11 12:06 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-05-12 0:49 ` Tejun Heo
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