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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Gwendal Grignou <gwendal@google.com>
Cc: Grant Grundler <grundler@google.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, htejun@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] libata: switch to using block layer tagging support
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:51:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A145139.8000007@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e7510f760905201108l4486ff6foc560c1271ebee7a7@mail.gmail.com>

Gwendal Grignou wrote:
> Form the ATA and SATA spec, NCQ is per device. It is possible to
> assign the same tag on different port, the disks and PMP will not
> care.
> However, today, we assign tag on a port basis [see
> __ata_qc_from_tag()], therefore only 32 commands can be inflight to
> all devices behind a given port.
> 
> Being able to a do a mapping qc <---> {pmp port, tag} instead of just
> qc <---> {tag} will provide a performance boost when disks supporting
> NCQ are connected behind a PMP. Maybe it can be done, by moving qcmd
> from ata_port to ata_link.
> 
> As Tejun said, the patch needs more work to be able to support same
> tag used on 2 different links behind the same port.
> Also, given we are changing the amount of commands we sent to the
> controller, we would have to change can_queue from ATA_MAX_QUEUE to
> ATA_MAX_QUEUE*n, where n is the number of ports supported by the
> controller [max SATA_PMP_MAX_PORTS, but some controller, like SiI3132
> only supports 5 devices, and other may only support n = 1]
> 
> When done, the patch will require a great amount of testing, given we
> will exercise the controllers in a brand new way. A white list might
> be necessary.

Well, I think a few things are getting confused, here.

Assigning 32 tags to each port is the best we can do, given existing 
hardware, which provides command slots on a per-port basis.

can_queue is a largely a host-wide limit that does not really apply to 
modern SATA, because we (and Jens patch) set queue depth properly. 
can_queue is mainly used these days for master/slave arbitration, and we 
mainly need to ensure that can_queue does not add additional, unneeded 
limits on top of the more fine-grained limits being configured.

	Jeff





  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-20 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-20  6:59 [PATCH 0/2] libata: switch to block layer tagging Jens Axboe
2009-05-20  7:00 ` [PATCH 1/2] libata: switch to using block layer tagging support Jens Axboe
2009-05-20 11:53   ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-20 17:10   ` Grant Grundler
2009-05-20 18:08     ` Gwendal Grignou
2009-05-20 18:50       ` James Bottomley
2009-05-20 18:58         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-20 19:04           ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-20 19:42             ` Gwendal Grignou
2009-05-20 19:47               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-21 13:44               ` Mark Lord
2009-05-21 17:27                 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-20 18:51       ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2009-05-20 19:09     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-06-10 15:11   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-06-11  2:10     ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-20  7:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] block: add function for waiting for a specific free tag Jens Axboe
2009-05-20 11:55   ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-20 19:34     ` old-EH and SAS (was Re: [PATCH 2/2] block: add function for waiting for a specific free tag) Jeff Garzik
2009-05-21 16:34       ` Brian King
2009-05-20 17:28   ` [PATCH 2/2] block: add function for waiting for a specific free tag Grant Grundler
2009-05-20  7:53 ` [PATCH 0/2] libata: switch to block layer tagging Jeff Garzik
2009-05-20  7:57   ` Jens Axboe

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