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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Gwendal Grignou <gwendal@google.com>,
	Grant Grundler <grundler@google.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, htejun@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] libata: switch to using block layer tagging support
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 15:04:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A145458.5080302@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A1452E9.7000204@garzik.org>

Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Well...   The limiting factor is "ATA command slots per SATA phy", which 
> defines $N active ATA commands per port.  If a SATA NCQ device is 
> attached, you may have $N active ATA commands queued.  If two SATA NCQ 
> devices are attached to a PMP, which is attached to the SATA controller, 
> the two devices share the limit of $N active ATA commands queued.  If 32 
> devices are attached to a PMP, all 32 devices share the $N command queue 
> limit.
> 
> But additionally, as Tejun demonstrated, you might have a mix of NCQ and 
> non-NCQ devices attached to the PMP.
> 
> Thus, it is a case of nested limits:
> 
> - $N maximum active commands per port; typically N==32
> - $M maximum active commands per device; typically N==1 or N==32


Note that this applies /somewhat/ to mvsas as well:  mvsas has up to 16 
"ATA register sets" that the OS driver may assign to various ATA devices 
on a single phy.

This simulates the "command slot" concept on dedicated SATA+PMP+NCQ 
hardware like AHCI or sata_sil24.

If you attach more than 16 ATA devices to a PMP, which is theoretically 
possible, then mvsas MUST fail discovery, because it cannot address that 
many ATA devices.

But mvsas's different architecture means that it does not have similar 
"command slot" limits.

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-20 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-20  6:59 [PATCH 0/2] libata: switch to block layer tagging Jens Axboe
2009-05-20  7:00 ` [PATCH 1/2] libata: switch to using block layer tagging support Jens Axboe
2009-05-20 11:53   ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-20 17:10   ` Grant Grundler
2009-05-20 18:08     ` Gwendal Grignou
2009-05-20 18:50       ` James Bottomley
2009-05-20 18:58         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-20 19:04           ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2009-05-20 19:42             ` Gwendal Grignou
2009-05-20 19:47               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-21 13:44               ` Mark Lord
2009-05-21 17:27                 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-20 18:51       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-20 19:09     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-06-10 15:11   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-06-11  2:10     ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-20  7:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] block: add function for waiting for a specific free tag Jens Axboe
2009-05-20 11:55   ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-20 19:34     ` old-EH and SAS (was Re: [PATCH 2/2] block: add function for waiting for a specific free tag) Jeff Garzik
2009-05-21 16:34       ` Brian King
2009-05-20 17:28   ` [PATCH 2/2] block: add function for waiting for a specific free tag Grant Grundler
2009-05-20  7:53 ` [PATCH 0/2] libata: switch to block layer tagging Jeff Garzik
2009-05-20  7:57   ` Jens Axboe

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