From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, Brian King <brking@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: old-EH and SAS (was Re: [PATCH 2/2] block: add function for waiting for a specific free tag)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 15:34:53 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A145B5D.8020607@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A13EFBC.4010005@gmail.com>
(changing subject...)
> there won't be any race around it (the old-EH path is broken if
> invoked with commands in flight anyway, so doesn't matter). Also, as
Speaking of the old-EH... as of
67651ee5710c45ea62fae68b768d65395ccf47c2 there are no drivers/ata/*
drivers remaining that use old-EH.
old-EH now exists _entirely_ for a couple SAS drivers, and it is an ugly
hack, so I wanted to take a moment to think about SAS, SATA, and
SATA+SAS error handling.
The currently we have a few distinct phy+link configurations that EH
must deal with, and each requires its own implementation (this ignores
legacy SFF and other non-phy topologies):
1) SATA PHY. This is what libata EH handles now: direct control over
SATA PHY and link.
2) SAS+SATA PHY. Essentially a super-set of #1, this includes nested
expander configurations, direct attachment of SAS or SATA, etc. Uses
libsas.
3) SAS+SATA firmware. Not quite as "low level" as #2, does not use libsas.
Each one of these clearly should use the same code for configuring and
managing ATA devices, including per-device EH.
Move up to the link level, and things start to get ugly.
_Ideally_, libsas should take over all of link exception handling from
libata, except for the final-link PMP handling. In reality, I think we
will have to deal with libsas doing 100% of link EH including PMP
handling, and libata will continue to perform link EH w/ PMP for !libsas
hardware.
The integration of discovery is pretty poor -- you wind up with one glob
of SATA devices and another glob of SCSI devices, with two separate
EH+scan processes. Ideally libsas should tell libata to scan a single
SATA phy, and handle parallelism/exclusion in libsas for SATA+SAS
configurations.
Brian King did a new-EH conversion for ipr, some time ago. Maybe that
work could be picked up, extended to libsas, and permit removal of all
the old-EH code remaining in libata.
Maybe I should s/eng_timeout/sas_timeout/ to emphasize the current state
of code ;-)
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-20 19:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-20 6:59 [PATCH 0/2] libata: switch to block layer tagging Jens Axboe
2009-05-20 7:00 ` [PATCH 1/2] libata: switch to using block layer tagging support Jens Axboe
2009-05-20 11:53 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-20 17:10 ` Grant Grundler
2009-05-20 18:08 ` Gwendal Grignou
2009-05-20 18:50 ` James Bottomley
2009-05-20 18:58 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-20 19:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-20 19:42 ` Gwendal Grignou
2009-05-20 19:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-21 13:44 ` Mark Lord
2009-05-21 17:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-20 18:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-20 19:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-06-10 15:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-06-11 2:10 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-20 7:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] block: add function for waiting for a specific free tag Jens Axboe
2009-05-20 11:55 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-20 19:34 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2009-05-21 16:34 ` old-EH and SAS (was Re: [PATCH 2/2] block: add function for waiting for a specific free tag) Brian King
2009-05-20 17:28 ` [PATCH 2/2] block: add function for waiting for a specific free tag Grant Grundler
2009-05-20 7:53 ` [PATCH 0/2] libata: switch to block layer tagging Jeff Garzik
2009-05-20 7:57 ` Jens Axboe
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