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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: "linux-ide@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Hans Werner <hwerner4@gmx.de>,
	Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru.mvista.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH #upstream 2/2] libata: implement spurious irq handling for SFF and apply it to piix
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 11:52:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B588664.4040602@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B579582.4050806@kernel.org>

On 01/20/2010 06:45 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On 01/21/2010 04:33 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> Overall, as long as the drive is in Bus-Idle mode, it should be safe to
>> go ahead and read Status, for pretty much every controller and drive.
>
> Hmmm... I was a bit worried about the case Alan mentioned several
> times where access to AltStatus while data transfer is going on can
> lead to silent data corruption.

If a drive is in Bus-Idle, as I mentioned, then there is no active data 
transfer.


>> I would make exception only for the new SATA FIS-based controllers,
>> where we know that hitting Status is likely both pointless and wasteful,
>> as well as being superfluous because the newer FIS-based controllers all
>> have irq status registers.
>
> FIS-based ones need their own interrupt handlers anyway so,
> fortunately, things like irq_check callback isn't necessary to begin
> with.  :-)

Yep.


>> Additionally, I think we should have a "fast-timeout" and
>> "slow-timeout", whereby we check Status after a short period (5
>> seconds?) to make sure we did not lose an interrupt.  If Status is !BSY,
>> then we can proceed with handling qc success/failure immediately.
>
> Does this happen often?  What I find more common is just plain
> timeouts, so I think it would improve our exception latency if we
> apply different timeouts for each trial.  ie. For the first RW try,
> set the timeout to 7 secs.  For the second, 15 and then to 30.  This
> wouldn't harm the correctness while allowing libata to react much
> faster to transient failures.

Lost interrupts do not happen often, but they do happen.  Google finds 
plenty of examples.


> Another thing is I can think of which can improve our robustness is
> dynamic irqpoll support such that when screaming IRQ happens, IRQ
> subsystem not only shuts down the IRQ line but also begins selectively
> irqpolling it.

Does this ever happen when data transfer is active?  AFAIK this happens 
during probe or reset or set-xfer or bus-idle or some other auxiliary 
moment in time.

	Jeff




  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-01-21 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-19  1:46 [PATCH #upstream 1/2] libata: cleanup ata_sff_interrupt() Tejun Heo
2010-01-19  1:49 ` [PATCH #upstream 2/2] libata: implement spurious irq handling for SFF and apply it to piix Tejun Heo
2010-01-20 19:33   ` Jeff Garzik
2010-01-20 23:45     ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-21 12:14       ` Alan Cox
2010-01-21 16:52       ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2010-01-22  0:36         ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-20 19:29 ` [PATCH #upstream 1/2] libata: cleanup ata_sff_interrupt() Jeff Garzik

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