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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	mingo@elte.hu, tglx@linutronix.de, bphilips@suse.de,
	yinghai@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	jeff@garzik.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	stern@rowland.harvard.edu, khali@linux-fr.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/12] usb: use IRQ watching
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:36:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C17BA0C.4010208@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinVL4UuF70E1dR1vbYYkVRTBDh5su5D9k0h-vVA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

On 06/15/2010 03:36 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
> Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not what we want. We want structured
> data, and a generic channel to pass all sort of errors through, and a
> userspace part to handle it in a sane way. Many error sources may also
> not have a device path in /sys, and therefore no uevent to send.
> Uevents/udev just seem so convinient because it's already there, but I
> think, has too many limitations to provide the needed functionality.
> Besides the fact that nothing listens to these events in userspace
> today -- it's a lot more to think through and work on than passing
> things through uevents, especially some generic classification and
> structured data passing, which is needed, instead of the current
> free-text 'dmsg' or the property-based stuff in uevents. I'm very sure
> it's the wrong facility to use.

Yeah, well, if you say so.  It would be very nice to have report this
type of critical events in somewhat formatted way so that they can be
processed automatically and presented to the user in more accessible
manner.  I doubt requiring strict structure would work in the long
run.  It'll likely end up being able to cover only portion of what's
originally designed and and stagnate in time.  I think control
information including identification and severity + free form string
would be much more manageable.

It would really be great to have something like that.  I can easily
think of several libata events the user should be notified of from the
top of my head but currently are buried in dmesg.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-15 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-13 15:31 [PATCHSET] irq: better lost/spurious irq handling Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 01/12] irq: cleanup irqfixup Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 02/12] irq: make spurious poll timer per desc Tejun Heo
2010-06-15  5:10   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-06-15 16:34     ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 03/12] irq: use desc->poll_timer for irqpoll Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 04/12] irq: kill IRQF_IRQPOLL Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 05/12] irq: misc preparations for further changes Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 06/12] irq: implement irq_schedule_poll() Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 07/12] irq: improve spurious IRQ handling Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 08/12] irq: implement IRQ watching Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 09/12] irq: implement IRQ expecting Tejun Heo
2010-06-14  9:21   ` Jiri Slaby
2010-06-14  9:43     ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-14  9:46       ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-17  3:48   ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-17  8:18     ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-17 11:12       ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-17 11:23         ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-17 11:43           ` Alan Cox
2010-06-17 15:54             ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-17 16:02               ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-17 16:47                 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-18  6:26                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-18  9:23                     ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-18  9:45                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-19  8:35     ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-19  8:42       ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-19  9:00         ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-19  9:03           ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-19 14:54           ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-19 19:49             ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-19 20:07               ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 10/12] irq: add comment about overall design of lost/spurious IRQ handling Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 11/12] libata: use IRQ expecting Tejun Heo
2010-06-13 15:31 ` [PATCH 12/12] usb: use IRQ watching Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 21:41   ` Greg KH
2010-06-14 21:52     ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-14 22:11       ` Greg KH
2010-06-14 22:19       ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-15 10:30         ` Kay Sievers
2010-06-15 11:05           ` Jean Delvare
2010-06-15 13:30             ` Kay Sievers
2010-06-15 11:20           ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-15 13:36             ` Kay Sievers
2010-06-15 17:36               ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2010-06-15 17:47                 ` Greg KH
2010-06-15 17:52                   ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-21 13:51   ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-21 20:27     ` Greg KH
2010-06-22  7:32       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <1276443098-20653-12-git-send-email-tj@kernel.org>
2010-06-21 13:52   ` [PATCH 11/12] libata: use IRQ expecting Tejun Heo
2010-06-25  0:22   ` Jeff Garzik
2010-06-25  7:44     ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-25  9:48       ` Jeff Garzik
2010-06-25  9:51         ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-25 13:02           ` [PATCH 1/2 #upstream] sata_fsl,mv,nv: prepare for NCQ command completion update Tejun Heo
2010-06-25 13:03             ` [PATCH 2/2 #upstream] libata: always use ata_qc_complete_multiple() for NCQ command completions Tejun Heo
2010-08-17 22:03               ` Jeff Garzik
2010-08-01 23:47             ` [PATCH 1/2 #upstream] sata_fsl,mv,nv: prepare for NCQ command completion update Jeff Garzik
2010-08-02  7:18               ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-04  4:22                 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-06-26  3:45       ` [PATCH 11/12] libata: use IRQ expecting Jeff Garzik
2010-06-26  3:52         ` Jeff Garzik
2010-06-26  8:31         ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-26  9:16           ` Jeff Garzik
2010-06-26  9:44             ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-02 14:41               ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-02 14:53                 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-10 10:06                 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-14  7:58                   ` Jeff Garzik
2010-07-14  9:26                     ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-27 17:37                 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-07-02 14:59 ` [GIT PULL] irq: better lost/spurious irq handling Tejun Heo

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