From: Mark Lord <kernel@teksavvy.com>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
Cc: IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ata_eh_link_autopsy: Bug?
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 19:52:33 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FA07741.1030105@teksavvy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FA07655.6090506@teksavvy.com>
On 12-05-01 07:48 PM, Mark Lord wrote:
> On 12-05-01 05:58 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
>> On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 04:27:00PM -0400, Mark Lord wrote:
>>> MMmm.. even that isn't good enough, because the first ATA_QCFLAG_IO test
>>> bypasses the rest of that logic and triggers unconditional retries. Ugh.
>>
>> Hmmm... the unconditional retry on ATA_QCFLAG_IO is intenttional so
>> that known good requests from FS are guaranteed to be retried no
>> matter how whacky the underlying device is. I'm not sure whether that
>> was a good decision tho. Maybe we should trust the hardware a bit
>> more. So, I'm not necessarily against changing it.
>
> With multi-terabyte drives being commonplace now, bad sectors seem
> to be a more frequent occurrence than I can remember from the past.
>
> And when libata stumbles across a bad sector, it literally hangs the
> machine for _minutes_ doing retries. I have never seen a retry make
> any difference whatsoever on a bad sector read. New, old, or ancient hardware.
And as a reminder to anyone else listening in,
it's easier than you might think to test failure paths like this.
Here, I keep a few 300GB drives around just for that purpose,
and use "hdparm --make-bad-sector" on them to inject media errors
at specific places on the disk or filesystem.
Cheers
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-01 23:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-01 20:12 ata_eh_link_autopsy: Bug? Mark Lord
2012-05-01 20:27 ` Mark Lord
2012-05-01 21:58 ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-01 23:48 ` Mark Lord
2012-05-01 23:52 ` Mark Lord [this message]
2012-05-02 0:00 ` [PATCH] libata-eh don't waste time retrying media errors Mark Lord
2012-05-02 3:03 ` [PATCH] libata-eh don't waste time retrying media errors (v2) Mark Lord
2012-05-02 15:54 ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-02 19:10 ` Mark Lord
2012-05-02 19:22 ` [PATCH] libata-eh don't waste time retrying media errors (v3) Mark Lord
2012-05-02 19:33 ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-02 19:43 ` Mark Lord
2012-05-02 19:46 ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-04 2:25 ` Jeff Garzik
2012-05-04 3:04 ` Mark Lord
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