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From: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
To: Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@opensource.wdc.com>,
	<axboe@kernel.dk>, <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	<martin.petersen@oracle.com>, <brking@us.ibm.com>, <hare@suse.de>,
	<hch@lst.de>
Cc: <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	<chenxiang66@hisilicon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 03/18] scsi: core: Implement reserved command handling
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 10:34:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53fa2856-54f2-c075-2eed-4f05c3459597@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e4b108ba-cbc9-5237-f873-2fcea94f2b85@opensource.wdc.com>

On 13/06/2022 10:06, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>>> We cannot have more than 32 tags.
>> We may have 32 regular tags and 1 reserved tag for SATA.
> Right. But that is the messy part though. That extra 1 tag is actually not
> a tag since all internal commands are non-NCQ commands that do not need a
> tag...

But apart from SATA, libsas LLDDs do need a real tag for the libata 
internal command.

> 
> I am working on command duration limits support currently. This feature
> set has a new horrendous "improvement": a command can be aborted by the
> device if it fails its duration limit, but the abort is done with a good
> status + sense data available bit set so that the device queue is not
> aborted entirely like with a regular NCQ command error.
> 
> For such aborted commands, the command sense data is set to
> "COMPLETED/DATA UNAVAILABLE". In this case, the host needs to go read the
> new "successful NCQ sense data log" to check that the command sense is
> indeed "COMPLETED/DATA UNAVAILABLE". And to go read that log page without
> stalling the device queue, we would need an internal NCQ (queuable) command.
> 
> Currently, that is not possible to do cleanly as there are no guarantees
> we can get a free tag (there is a race between block layer tag allocation
> and libata internal tag counting). So a reserved tag for that would be
> nice. We would end up with 31 IO tags at most + 1 reserved tag for NCQ
> commands + ATA_TAG_INTERNAL for non-NCQ. That last one would be rendered
> rather useless. But that also means that we kind-of go back to the days
> when Linux showed ATA drives max QD of 31...

So must the ATA_TAG_INTERNAL qc always be available for non-NCQ action 
like EH, and that is why you cannot reuse for this internal NCQ 
(queuable) command?

> 
> I am still struggling with this particular use case and trying to make it
> fit with your series. Trying out different things right now.
> 

ok

> 
>>> I think keeping can_queue as the max queue depth with at most
>>> nr_reserved_cmds tags reserved is better.
>> Maybe the wording in the comment can be improved as it originally
>> focused on SAS HBAs where there are no special rules for tagset depth or
>> how the tagset should be carved up to handle regular and reserved commands.
> Indeed. And that would be for HBAs that do*not*  use libsas/libata.
> Otherwise, the NCQ vs non-NCQ reserved tag mess is there.
> 

Thanks,
John

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-13  9:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-09 10:29 [PATCH RFC v2 00/18] blk-mq/libata/scsi: SCSI driver tagging improvements John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/18] blk-mq: Add a flag for reserved requests John Garry
2022-06-14  6:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-14  9:29     ` John Garry
2022-06-14 18:00   ` Bart Van Assche
2022-06-14 18:30     ` John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/18] scsi: core: Resurrect scsi_{get,free}_host_dev() John Garry
2022-06-14  6:44   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-14  9:33     ` John Garry
2022-06-14 19:33   ` Bart Van Assche
2022-06-15 13:44     ` John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/18] scsi: core: Implement reserved command handling John Garry
2022-06-13  7:01   ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-13  8:25     ` John Garry
2022-06-13  9:06       ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-13  9:34         ` John Garry [this message]
2022-06-13  9:43           ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-13 10:05             ` John Garry
2022-06-20  6:45         ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-06-20  7:06           ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-14 18:20     ` Bart Van Assche
2022-06-14 23:43       ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-15  7:35         ` John Garry
2022-06-16  2:47           ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-16  8:24             ` John Garry
2022-06-16  8:41               ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-20  8:27                 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-06-20  9:02                   ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-20  9:05                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-20 11:24                       ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-20 11:56                         ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-06-20  8:02           ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-06-20  6:24     ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-06-20  6:28       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-20  7:03         ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-06-20  7:14           ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/18] scsi: core: Add support to send reserved commands John Garry
2022-06-13  7:03   ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-13  9:40     ` John Garry
2022-06-13  9:41       ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/18] scsi: core: Allocate SCSI host sdev when required John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/18] libata-scsi: Add ata_scsi_queue_internal() John Garry
2022-06-13  7:12   ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-13  9:41     ` John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/18] libata-scsi: Add ata_internal_queuecommand() John Garry
2022-06-13  7:16   ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-13  9:44     ` John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/18] libata: Queue ATA internal commands as requests John Garry
2022-06-13  7:22   ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-13  8:13     ` John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/18] scsi: ipr: Support reserved commands John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/18] libata/scsi: libsas: Add sas_queuecommand_internal() John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/18] scsi: libsas: Don't attempt to find scsi host rphy in slave alloc John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/18] scsi: libsas drivers: Prepare for reserved commands John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 13/18] scsi: libsas: Allocate SCSI commands for tasks John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 14/18] scsi: libsas: Queue SMP commands as requests John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 15/18] scsi: libsas: Queue TMF " John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 16/18] scsi: core: Add scsi_alloc_request_hwq() John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 17/18] scsi: libsas: Queue internal abort commands as requests John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 18/18] scsi: libsas drivers: Remove private tag management John Garry

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