From: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
To: Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@opensource.wdc.com>,
<axboe@kernel.dk>, <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
<martin.petersen@oracle.com>, <brking@us.ibm.com>, <hare@suse.de>,
<hch@lst.de>
Cc: <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
<chenxiang66@hisilicon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 03/18] scsi: core: Implement reserved command handling
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 10:34:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53fa2856-54f2-c075-2eed-4f05c3459597@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e4b108ba-cbc9-5237-f873-2fcea94f2b85@opensource.wdc.com>
On 13/06/2022 10:06, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>>> We cannot have more than 32 tags.
>> We may have 32 regular tags and 1 reserved tag for SATA.
> Right. But that is the messy part though. That extra 1 tag is actually not
> a tag since all internal commands are non-NCQ commands that do not need a
> tag...
But apart from SATA, libsas LLDDs do need a real tag for the libata
internal command.
>
> I am working on command duration limits support currently. This feature
> set has a new horrendous "improvement": a command can be aborted by the
> device if it fails its duration limit, but the abort is done with a good
> status + sense data available bit set so that the device queue is not
> aborted entirely like with a regular NCQ command error.
>
> For such aborted commands, the command sense data is set to
> "COMPLETED/DATA UNAVAILABLE". In this case, the host needs to go read the
> new "successful NCQ sense data log" to check that the command sense is
> indeed "COMPLETED/DATA UNAVAILABLE". And to go read that log page without
> stalling the device queue, we would need an internal NCQ (queuable) command.
>
> Currently, that is not possible to do cleanly as there are no guarantees
> we can get a free tag (there is a race between block layer tag allocation
> and libata internal tag counting). So a reserved tag for that would be
> nice. We would end up with 31 IO tags at most + 1 reserved tag for NCQ
> commands + ATA_TAG_INTERNAL for non-NCQ. That last one would be rendered
> rather useless. But that also means that we kind-of go back to the days
> when Linux showed ATA drives max QD of 31...
So must the ATA_TAG_INTERNAL qc always be available for non-NCQ action
like EH, and that is why you cannot reuse for this internal NCQ
(queuable) command?
>
> I am still struggling with this particular use case and trying to make it
> fit with your series. Trying out different things right now.
>
ok
>
>>> I think keeping can_queue as the max queue depth with at most
>>> nr_reserved_cmds tags reserved is better.
>> Maybe the wording in the comment can be improved as it originally
>> focused on SAS HBAs where there are no special rules for tagset depth or
>> how the tagset should be carved up to handle regular and reserved commands.
> Indeed. And that would be for HBAs that do*not* use libsas/libata.
> Otherwise, the NCQ vs non-NCQ reserved tag mess is there.
>
Thanks,
John
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-06-13 9:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-06-09 10:29 [PATCH RFC v2 00/18] blk-mq/libata/scsi: SCSI driver tagging improvements John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/18] blk-mq: Add a flag for reserved requests John Garry
2022-06-14 6:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-14 9:29 ` John Garry
2022-06-14 18:00 ` Bart Van Assche
2022-06-14 18:30 ` John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/18] scsi: core: Resurrect scsi_{get,free}_host_dev() John Garry
2022-06-14 6:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-14 9:33 ` John Garry
2022-06-14 19:33 ` Bart Van Assche
2022-06-15 13:44 ` John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/18] scsi: core: Implement reserved command handling John Garry
2022-06-13 7:01 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-13 8:25 ` John Garry
2022-06-13 9:06 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-13 9:34 ` John Garry [this message]
2022-06-13 9:43 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-13 10:05 ` John Garry
2022-06-20 6:45 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-06-20 7:06 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-14 18:20 ` Bart Van Assche
2022-06-14 23:43 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-15 7:35 ` John Garry
2022-06-16 2:47 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-16 8:24 ` John Garry
2022-06-16 8:41 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-20 8:27 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-06-20 9:02 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-20 9:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-20 11:24 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-20 11:56 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-06-20 8:02 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-06-20 6:24 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-06-20 6:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-20 7:03 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-06-20 7:14 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/18] scsi: core: Add support to send reserved commands John Garry
2022-06-13 7:03 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-13 9:40 ` John Garry
2022-06-13 9:41 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/18] scsi: core: Allocate SCSI host sdev when required John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/18] libata-scsi: Add ata_scsi_queue_internal() John Garry
2022-06-13 7:12 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-13 9:41 ` John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/18] libata-scsi: Add ata_internal_queuecommand() John Garry
2022-06-13 7:16 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-13 9:44 ` John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/18] libata: Queue ATA internal commands as requests John Garry
2022-06-13 7:22 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-06-13 8:13 ` John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/18] scsi: ipr: Support reserved commands John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/18] libata/scsi: libsas: Add sas_queuecommand_internal() John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/18] scsi: libsas: Don't attempt to find scsi host rphy in slave alloc John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/18] scsi: libsas drivers: Prepare for reserved commands John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 13/18] scsi: libsas: Allocate SCSI commands for tasks John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 14/18] scsi: libsas: Queue SMP commands as requests John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 15/18] scsi: libsas: Queue TMF " John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 16/18] scsi: core: Add scsi_alloc_request_hwq() John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 17/18] scsi: libsas: Queue internal abort commands as requests John Garry
2022-06-09 10:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 18/18] scsi: libsas drivers: Remove private tag management John Garry
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