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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"Jason B. Akers" <jason.b.akers@intel.com>
Cc: linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
	kapil.karkra@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Enable use of Solid State Hybrid Drives
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:10:51 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <545157DB.70304@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141029201417.GK16186@dastard>

On 10/29/2014 02:14 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:23:38AM -0700, Jason B. Akers wrote:
>> The following series enables the use of Solid State hybrid drives
>> ATA standard 3.2 defines the hybrid information feature, which provides a means for the host driver to provide hints to the SSHDs to guide what to place on the SSD/NAND portion and what to place on the magnetic media.
>>
>> This implementation allows user space applications to provide the cache hints to the kernel using the existing ionice syscall. 
>>
>> An application can pass a priority number coding up bits 11, 12, and 15 of the ionice command to form a 3 bit field that encodes the following priorities:
>> 	OPRIO_ADV_NONE,
>> 	IOPRIO_ADV_EVICT, /* actively discard cached data */
>> 	IOPRIO_ADV_DONTNEED, /* caching this data has little value */
>> 	IOPRIO_ADV_NORMAL, /* best-effort cache priority (default) */
>> 	IOPRIO_ADV_RESERVED1, /* reserved for future use */
>> 	IOPRIO_ADV_RESERVED2,
>> 	IOPRIO_ADV_RESERVED3,
>> 	IOPRIO_ADV_WILLNEED, /* high temporal locality */
>>
>> For example the following commands from the user space will make dd IOs to be generated with a hint of IOPRIO_ADV_DONTNEED assuming the SSHD is /dev/sdc.
>>
>> ionice -c2 -n4096 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=1M count=1024
>> ionice -c2 -n4096 dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1024
> 
> This looks to be the wrong way to implement per-IO priority
> information.
> 
> How does a filesystem make use of this to make sure it's
> metadata ends up with IOPRIO_ADV_WILLNEED to store frequently
> accessed metadata in flash. Conversely, journal writes need to
> be issued with IOPRIO_ADV_DONTNEED so they don't unneceessarily
> consume flash space as they are never-read IOs...

Not disagreeing that loading more into the io priority fields is a
bit... icky. I see why it's done, though, it requires the least amount
of plumbing.

As for the fs accessing this, the io nice fields are readily exposed
through the ->bi_rw setting. So while the above example uses ionice to
set a task io priority (that a bio will then inherit), nothing prevents
you from passing it in directly from the kernel.

-- 
Jens Axboe

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-29 21:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-29 18:23 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Enable use of Solid State Hybrid Drives Jason B. Akers
2014-10-29 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] block, ioprio: include caching advice via ionice Jason B. Akers
2014-10-29 19:02   ` Jeff Moyer
2014-10-29 21:07     ` Dan Williams
2014-10-29 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] block: ioprio hint to low-level device drivers Jason B. Akers
2014-10-29 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] block: untangle ioprio from BLK_CGROUP and BLK_DEV_THROTTLING Jason B. Akers
2014-10-29 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] block, mm: Added the necessary plumbing to take ioprio hints down to block layer Jason B. Akers
2014-10-29 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] libata: Enabling Solid State Hybrid Drives (SSHDs) based on SATA 3.2 standard Jason B. Akers
2014-10-29 20:14 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Enable use of Solid State Hybrid Drives Dave Chinner
2014-10-29 21:10   ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2014-10-29 22:09     ` Dave Chinner
2014-10-29 22:24       ` Dan Williams
2014-10-30  7:21         ` Dave Chinner
2014-10-30 14:15           ` Jens Axboe
2014-10-30 17:07           ` Dan Williams
2014-11-10  4:22             ` Dave Chinner
2014-11-12 16:47               ` Dan Williams
2014-10-29 22:49       ` Jens Axboe
2014-10-29 21:11   ` Dan Williams
2014-12-03 15:25   ` Pavel Machek
2014-10-30  2:05 ` Martin K. Petersen
2014-10-30  2:35   ` Jens Axboe
2014-10-30  3:28     ` Martin K. Petersen
2014-10-30  4:19       ` Dan Williams
2014-10-30 14:17         ` Jens Axboe
2014-10-30 14:53       ` Jens Axboe
2014-10-30 16:27         ` Dan Williams

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