linux-ide.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>,
	B.Zolnierkiewicz@elka.pw.edu.pl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] IDE: don't offer IDE_GENERIC on ia64
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:42:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <58cb370e050816134270b445ea@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1124223946.22924.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On 8/16/05, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> > >   * non-functional HDIO_REGISTER_HWIF ioctl (ain't really working either)
> >
> > HDIO_SCAN_HWIF - I don't know about this one.  How are we supposed to
> > follow the "new ports shouldn't define IDE_ARCH_OBSOLETE_INIT" injunction
> > if we lose all this functionality without it?  ia64 is about as close to
> > a new port as you get :-)
> 
> It allows you to register interfaces from user space.
> 
> As to IDE_ARCH_OBOSOLETE_INIT, its a red herring. It's not worth the
> trouble to avoid it given the expected short remaining life time of the
> old IDE layer. Far better would be to help get the new SATA layer doing
> PATA so drivers/ide can be deleted.

My opinion on this matter differ, I want to:
* finish rewriting IDE code
* deprecate crap
* (later) drop crap and merge rest with libata

I will write precised TODO (w/ status) soon.

IMO this is much better solution as:
* you go from working code into small steps (evolution)
* you don't have to maintain both libata and IDE driver
   for X years (deleting drivers/ide anytime soon is a pipedream)
* as IDE becomes less popular testing gets harder
  (especially when developing new code - you don't
   have previous state)
* it shouldn't be that hard - I have many parts of the stuff
  done (they need some polishing)

Bjorn, thanks for working on this, IDE_ARCH_OBSOLETE_INIT
( -> ide_init_hwif_ports() ) needs to be fixed in order to make REAL
improvements.

Bartlomiej

  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-16 20:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-11 20:24 [PATCH] IDE: don't offer IDE_GENERIC on ia64 Bjorn Helgaas
2005-08-11 20:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-11 20:37   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2005-08-12 19:41   ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-08-16 10:02   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-08-16 14:05     ` Alan Cox
2005-08-11 20:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-11 20:45   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2005-08-11 20:56     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-11 21:42       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2005-08-11 21:48         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-11 21:56           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-11 23:07             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2005-08-11 23:49               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-12  8:35               ` Alan Cox
2005-08-12 10:33               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-08-11 23:01         ` Jack Steiner
2005-08-11 23:08 ` Jack Steiner
2005-08-12  8:40 ` Alan Cox
2005-08-15 21:07   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2005-08-16  9:38     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-08-16  9:54       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-08-16 12:55       ` Alan Cox
2005-08-16 12:59         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-08-16 13:40         ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-08-16 13:49           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-08-16 19:16       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2005-08-16 20:16         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-08-16 20:25         ` Alan Cox
2005-08-16 20:42           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [this message]
2005-08-16 21:48             ` Alan Cox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-11 21:58 Luck, Tony
2005-08-11 22:03 ` Jeff Garzik

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=58cb370e050816134270b445ea@mail.gmail.com \
    --to=bzolnier@gmail.com \
    --cc=B.Zolnierkiewicz@elka.pw.edu.pl \
    --cc=alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk \
    --cc=bjorn.helgaas@hp.com \
    --cc=linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-ide@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).