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From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@opensource.wdc.com>,
	John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>,
	John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>,
	jejb@linux.ibm.com, martin.petersen@oracle.com,
	bvanassche@acm.org, hch@lst.de, ming.lei@redhat.com,
	niklas.cassel@wdc.com
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, jinpu.wang@cloud.ionos.com,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxarm@huawei.com, john.garry2@mail.dcu.ie
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 2/7] ata: libata-scsi: Add ata_internal_queuecommand()
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2022 15:34:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84544a8b-5884-840c-0b69-fe6c4ae18e72@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cfb89169-77e5-b208-62e7-4cf1c660ac7a@opensource.wdc.com>

On 11/7/22 14:29, Damien Le Moal wrote:
> On 11/7/22 19:12, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>> On 11/2/22 12:25, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>>> On 11/2/22 20:12, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>>>> On 11/2/22 11:07, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>>>>> On 11/2/22 18:52, John Garry wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Damien,
>>>>>>
>>>> [ .. ] >> So we only need to find a way of 're-using' that tag, then we won't have
>>>> to set aside a reserved tag and everything would be dandy...
>>>
>>> I tried that. It is very ugly... Problem is that integration with EH in
>>> case a real NCQ error happens when all that read-log-complete dance is
>>> happening is hard. And don't get me started with the need to save/restore
>>> the scsi command context of the command we are reusing the tag from.
>>>
>>> And given that the code is changing to use regular submission path for
>>> internal commands, right now, we need a reserved tag. Or a way to "borrow"
>>> the tag from a request that we need to check. Which means we need some
>>> additional api to not always try to allocate a tag.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we can stop processing when we receive an error (should be doing
>>>> that anyway as otherwise the log might be overwritten), then we should
>>>> be having a pretty good chance of getting that tag.
>>>
>>> Hmmm.... that would be no better than using EH which does stop processing
>>> until the internal house keeping is done.
>>>
>>>> Or, precisely, getting _any_ tag as at least one tag is free at that point.
>>>> Hmm?
>>>
>>> See above. Not free, but usable as far as the device is concerned since we
>>> have at least on command we need to check completed at the device level
>>> (but not yet completed from scsi/block layer point of view).
>>>
>> So, having had an entire weekend pondering this issue why don't we
>> allocate an _additional_ set of requests?
>> After all, we had been very generous with allocating queues and requests
>> (what with us doing a full provisioning of the requests for all queues
>> already for the non-shared tag case).
>>
>> Idea would be to keep the single tag bitmap, but add eg a new rq state
>> MQ_RQ_ERROR. Once that flag is set we'll fetch the error request instead
>> of the normal one:
>>
>> @@ -761,6 +763,8 @@ static inline struct request
>> *blk_mq_tag_to_rq(struct blk_mq_tags *tags,
>>    {
>>           if (tag < tags->nr_tags) {
>>                   prefetch(tags->rqs[tag]);
>> +               if (unlikely(blk_mq_request_error(tags->rqs[tag])))
>> +                       return tags->error_rqs[tag];
>>                   return tags->rqs[tag];
>>           }
>>
>> and, of course, we would need to provision the error request first.
>>
>> Rationale here is that this will be primarily for devices with a low
>> number of tags, so doubling the number of request isn't much of an
>> overhead (as we'll be doing it essentially anyway in the error case as
>> we'll have to save the original request _somewhere_), and that it would
>> remove quite some cruft from the subsystem; look at SCSI EH trying to
>> store the original request contents and then after EH restoring them again.
> 
> Interesting idea. I like it. It is essentially a set of reserved requests
> without reserved tags: the tag to use for these requests would be provided
> "manually" by the user. Right ?
> 
Yes. Upon failure one would be calling something like 
'blk_mq_get_error_rq(rq)', which would set the error flag in the 
original request, fetch the matching request from ->static_rqs, and 
return that one.

Just figured, we could simply enlarge 'static_rqs' to have double the 
size; then we can easily get the appropriate request from 'static_rqs' 
by just adding the queue size.
Making things even easier ...

> That should allow simplifying any processing that needs to reuse a tag,
> and currently its request. That is, CDL, but also usb-scsi, scsi EH and
> the few scsi LLDs using scsi_eh_prep_cmnd()+scsi_eh_restore_cmnd().
> Ideally, these 2 functions could go away too.
> 
Which was precisely the idea. We have quite some drivers/infrastructure 
which already require a similar functionality, and basically all of them 
cover devices with a really low tag space (32/31 in the libata NCQ case, 
16 in the SCSI TCQ case, or even _1_ in the SCSI parallel case :-)
So a request duplication wouldn't matter _that_ much here.

Drivers with a higher queue depth typically can do 'real' TMFs, where 
you need to allocate a new tag anyway, and so the whole operation 
doesn't apply here.

Cheers,

Hannes
-- 
Dr. Hannes Reinecke		           Kernel Storage Architect
hare@suse.de			                  +49 911 74053 688
SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg
HRB 36809 (AG Nürnberg), GF: Felix Imendörffer


  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-07 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-25 10:32 [PATCH RFC v3 0/7] blk-mq/libata/scsi: SCSI driver tagging improvements Part II John Garry
2022-10-25 10:32 ` [PATCH RFC v3 1/7] ata: libata-scsi: Add ata_scsi_queue_internal() John Garry
2022-10-27  1:42   ` Damien Le Moal
2022-10-27 10:45     ` John Garry
2022-10-27 22:24       ` Damien Le Moal
2022-10-25 10:32 ` [PATCH RFC v3 2/7] ata: libata-scsi: Add ata_internal_queuecommand() John Garry
2022-10-27  1:45   ` Damien Le Moal
2022-10-27  9:56     ` John Garry
2022-10-27 13:02       ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-10-27 17:23         ` John Garry
2022-10-27 22:35           ` Damien Le Moal
2022-10-28  8:14             ` John Garry
2022-10-28  8:26               ` Damien Le Moal
2022-10-27 22:25       ` Damien Le Moal
2022-10-28  8:01         ` John Garry
2022-10-28  8:07           ` Damien Le Moal
2022-10-28  8:33             ` John Garry
2022-10-31  5:59               ` Damien Le Moal
2022-11-02  9:52                 ` John Garry
2022-11-02 10:07                   ` Damien Le Moal
2022-11-02 11:12                     ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-11-02 11:25                       ` Damien Le Moal
2022-11-07 10:12                         ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-11-07 13:29                           ` Damien Le Moal
2022-11-07 14:34                             ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2022-10-25 10:32 ` [PATCH RFC v3 3/7] ata: libata: Make space for ATA queue command in scmd payload John Garry
2022-10-25 10:32 ` [PATCH RFC v3 4/7] ata: libata: Add ata_internal_timeout() John Garry
2022-10-25 10:32 ` [PATCH RFC v3 5/7] ata: libata: Queue ATA internal commands as requests John Garry
2022-10-25 10:32 ` [PATCH RFC v3 6/7] scsi: mvsas: Remove internal tag handling John Garry
2022-10-25 10:32 ` [PATCH RFC v3 7/7] scsi: hisi_sas: Remove internal tag handling for reserved commands John Garry

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