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From: Phillip Susi <phill@thesusis.net>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Cc: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	Paul Ausbeck <paula@soe.ucsc.edu>,
	Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>,
	Joe Breuer <linux-kernel@jmbreuer.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/19] ata: libata-scsi: Disable scsi device manage_start_stop
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 12:37:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875y4cyafe.fsf@vps.thesusis.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <82d68ebf-bde9-4046-b6bf-3e908a94a8eb@suse.de>


Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de> writes:

>> forever. This is according to SAT specs. There is no command to explicitly get
>> out of standby-mode. Even a reset should not change the drive power state
>> (though I do see a lot of drive waking up on COMRESET). A media access command
>> does that. See ACS specs "Power Management states and transitions". The only
>> exception is that you can use SET FEATURE command to wake up a drive, but only
>> from PUIS state (Power-Up in Standby), which is a different feature that is not
>> necessarilly supported by a device.


IIRC, there was a bit in the IDENTIFY block that if set, meant that the
drive WOULD NOT automatically spin up on access, and you HAD to use SET
FEATURE to wake it.  I seem to recall that my Western Digital drives did
this and my bios would not recognize the drives as bootable because it
did not know how to issue SET FEATURE to force it to spin up.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-14 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-11  4:01 [PATCH 00/19] Fix libata suspend/resume handling and code cleanup Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  4:01 ` [PATCH 01/19] ata: libata-core: Fix ata_port_request_pm() locking Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:34   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:41   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 02/19] ata: libata-core: Fix port and device removal Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:37   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-11  6:44     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:07       ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:43   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 03/19] ata: libata-scsi: link ata port and scsi device Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:41   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-11  6:48     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:07       ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-11 10:38       ` John Garry
2023-09-11 11:48         ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11 15:15           ` John Garry
2023-09-12  6:13             ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-12  8:49               ` John Garry
2023-09-12  9:00                 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-12  9:19                   ` John Garry
2023-09-13  1:43   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 04/19] ata: libata-scsi: Disable scsi device manage_start_stop Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:46   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-11  6:59     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:09       ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-14 16:37         ` Phillip Susi [this message]
2023-09-13  1:44   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 05/19] ata: libata-scsi: Fix delayed scsi_rescan_device() execution Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:47   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:44   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-14 17:25   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-14 22:05     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 06/19] ata: libata-core: Do not register PM operations for SAS ports Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:50   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:44   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 07/19] scsi: sd: Do not issue commands to suspended disks on remove Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:51   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:45   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-13 20:50   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-14  0:29     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-14 14:39       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 08/19] scsi: Remove scsi device no_start_on_resume flag Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:52   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:45   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-14 17:29   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 09/19] ata: libata-scsi: Cleanup ata_scsi_start_stop_xlat() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:57   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:46   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 10/19] ata: libata-core: Synchronize ata_port_detach() with hotplug Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:58   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:46   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 11/19] ata: libata-core: Detach a port devices on shutdown Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:59   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:46   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 12/19] ata: libata-core: Remove ata_port_suspend_async() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:00   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:47   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 13/19] ata: libata-core: Remove ata_port_resume_async() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:00   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:47   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 14/19] ata: libata-core: skip poweroff for devices that are runtime suspended Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:01   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:48   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 15/19] ata: libata-core: Do not resume ports that have been " Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:01   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:48   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 16/19] ata: libata-sata: Improve ata_sas_slave_configure() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:02   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:48   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 17/19] ata: libata-eh: Improve reset error messages Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:03   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-11 10:03   ` John Garry
2023-09-13  1:49   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 18/19] ata: libata-eh: Reduce "disable device" message verbosity Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:05   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-11 10:14   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2023-09-13  1:49   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 19/19] ata: libata: Cleanup inline DMA helper functions Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:06   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:49   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)

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