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From: Phillip Susi <phill@thesusis.net>
To: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	Paul Ausbeck <paula@soe.ucsc.edu>,
	Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>,
	Joe Breuer <linux-kernel@jmbreuer.net>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Chia-Lin Kao <acelan.kao@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 19/23] ata: libata-core: Do not resume runtime suspended ports
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 11:01:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bkdpdkon.fsf@vps.thesusis.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e3ddb272-4ff6-e5a7-7a4e-cb2acf0595d7@kernel.org>


Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org> writes:

> I suspect you are talking about resume from hybernation here, where the drive
> may have been completely powered off... Yes, in such case, the drive will
> spinup, unless you have PUIS and enabled it.

The same thing happens in suspend / S3.

> Sure, but please do not have this delay this patch series. The problem you are
> describing above exists today already. This patch series is not making it worse,
> nor is it trying to solve it. And note that this issue is not just for ATA. SCSI
> devices locally attached to a machine that you hybernate will end up doing the
> same and spinup when power is restored...

You are saying that right now, the sd driver issues a START UNIT command
on system resume ( it looks like there's a flag you can set now to prevent
that ), then leaves the runtime pm state looking like the drive is still
suspended?  I thought it handled that correctly but I don't see any code
doing so right now.

If that's the case, then I suppose this series at least does not make
things worse...

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-26 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-23  0:29 [PATCH v6 00/23] Fix libata suspend/resume handling and code cleanup Damien Le Moal
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 01/23] ata: libata-core: Fix ata_port_request_pm() locking Damien Le Moal
2023-09-26 17:18   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 02/23] ata: libata-core: Fix port and device removal Damien Le Moal
2023-09-26 17:28   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 03/23] ata: libata-scsi: link ata port and scsi device Damien Le Moal
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 04/23] scsi: sd: Differentiate system and runtime start/stop management Damien Le Moal
2023-09-26 18:07   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 05/23] ata: libata-scsi: Disable scsi device manage_system_start_stop Damien Le Moal
2023-09-25 14:27   ` Phillip Susi
2023-09-26  6:19     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-26  6:34       ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-26 15:25       ` Phillip Susi
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 06/23] scsi: Do not attempt to rescan suspended devices Damien Le Moal
2023-09-26 18:10   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 07/23] ata: libata-scsi: Fix delayed scsi_rescan_device() execution Damien Le Moal
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 08/23] ata: libata-core: Do not register PM operations for SAS ports Damien Le Moal
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 09/23] scsi: sd: Do not issue commands to suspended disks on shutdown Damien Le Moal
2023-09-25 20:22   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-26  6:00     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-26 14:51       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-26 23:30         ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 10/23] ata: libata-core: Fix compilation warning in ata_dev_config_ncq() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 11/23] ata: libata-eh: Fix compilation warning in ata_eh_link_report() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 12/23] scsi: Remove scsi device no_start_on_resume flag Damien Le Moal
2023-09-26 20:42   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 13/23] ata: libata-scsi: Cleanup ata_scsi_start_stop_xlat() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 14/23] ata: libata-core: Synchronize ata_port_detach() with hotplug Damien Le Moal
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 15/23] ata: libata-core: Detach a port devices on shutdown Damien Le Moal
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 16/23] ata: libata-core: Remove ata_port_suspend_async() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 17/23] ata: libata-core: Remove ata_port_resume_async() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 18/23] ata: libata-core: Do not poweroff runtime suspended ports Damien Le Moal
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 19/23] ata: libata-core: Do not resume " Damien Le Moal
2023-09-25 17:26   ` Phillip Susi
2023-09-26  6:27     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-26 15:01       ` Phillip Susi [this message]
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 20/23] ata: libata-sata: Improve ata_sas_slave_configure() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 21/23] ata: libata-eh: Improve reset error messages Damien Le Moal
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 22/23] ata: libata-eh: Reduce "disable device" message verbosity Damien Le Moal
2023-09-23  0:29 ` [PATCH v6 23/23] ata: libata: Cleanup inline DMA helper functions Damien Le Moal

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