From: Elias Oltmanns <eo@nebensachen.de>
To: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] ide: Implement disk shock protection support
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:55:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ljxxy3x6.fsf@denkblock.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vdx1y9gv.fsf@denkblock.local> (Elias Oltmanns's message of "Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:55:28 +0200")
Elias Oltmanns <eo@nebensachen.de> wrote:
> Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
>> Since Tejun already raised concerns about multiplexing per-device
>> and per-port settings I'm not repeating them here. Please just
>> remember to backport fixes from libata version to ide one.
>
> For the sake of consistency, I've always tried to make ide and libata
> behave alike (or as close to it as possible). However, the final version
> of the libata patch is very hard to mimc in ide. Therefore, I wonder
> whether we can do in ide what we'd really like to do in libata
> eventually. The patch below is a real per-device implementation of the
> unload feature. However, I'd like you to confirm the crucial assumption
> underlying this patch: a port reset is the only way a device can
> interfere with another device on the same port. In particular, I haven't
> made an effort to understand pnp and similar stuff completely, but from
> a first glance I got the impression that these things are done per-port
> rather than per-device and that nothing sinister will happen behind our
> back. In short, can you confirm the following:
>
> Condition: device A on a port is parked (implies there is at least one
> request on the queue of that device, i.e we hold a
> reference to the device and thus to the port).
> Assumption: nothing will disturb the device because resets due to
> command failure / timeouts on device B are deferred (see my
> patch) and spurious commands like IDENTIFY (or whatever
> actions may be related to pnp and the like) are not
> performed while the device is sleeping and a request is
> waiting on the queue.
Sorry for spamming you again, but I forgot to mention one more thing: In
my hardware environment, I cannot easily test the code in do_reset1()
which is supposed to defer resets if necessary. Since we have something
very similar in libata (which I have tested), I'm quite confident that
everything will work out nicely. Still, you may want to pay special
attention to this piece of code.
Regards,
Elias
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-12 11:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-29 21:11 [RFC] Disk shock protection in GNU/Linux (take 2) Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-29 21:16 ` [PATCH 1/4] Introduce ata_id_has_unload() Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-30 11:56 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-30 17:29 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-30 18:01 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-29 21:20 ` [PATCH 2/4] libata: Implement disk shock protection support Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-30 9:33 ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-30 23:38 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-31 9:25 ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-31 12:08 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-31 13:03 ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-31 14:32 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-08-31 17:07 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-31 19:35 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-09-01 15:41 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-01 2:08 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-01 9:37 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-08-31 16:14 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-01 8:33 ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-01 14:51 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-01 16:43 ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-03 20:23 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-04 9:06 ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-04 17:32 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-05 8:51 ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-10 13:53 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-10 14:40 ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-10 19:28 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-10 20:23 ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-10 21:04 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-10 22:56 ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-11 12:26 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-11 12:51 ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-11 13:01 ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-11 18:28 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-09-11 23:25 ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-12 10:15 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-12 18:11 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-09-17 15:26 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-29 21:26 ` [PATCH 3/4] ide: " Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-01 19:29 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-09-03 20:01 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-03 21:33 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-05 17:33 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-09-12 9:55 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-12 11:55 ` Elias Oltmanns [this message]
2008-09-15 19:15 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-15 23:22 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-09-17 15:28 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-29 21:28 ` [PATCH 4/4] Add documentation for hard disk shock protection interface Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-08 22:04 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-09-16 16:53 ` Elias Oltmanns
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