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From: Elias Oltmanns <eo@nebensachen.de>
To: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
	Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] ide: Implement disk shock protection support
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:55:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ljxxy3x6.fsf@denkblock.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vdx1y9gv.fsf@denkblock.local> (Elias Oltmanns's message of "Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:55:28 +0200")

Elias Oltmanns <eo@nebensachen.de> wrote:
> Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
>> Since Tejun already raised concerns about multiplexing per-device
>> and per-port settings I'm not repeating them here.  Please just
>> remember to backport fixes from libata version to ide one.
>
> For the sake of consistency, I've always tried to make ide and libata
> behave alike (or as close to it as possible). However, the final version
> of the libata patch is very hard to mimc in ide. Therefore, I wonder
> whether we can do in ide what we'd really like to do in libata
> eventually. The patch below is a real per-device implementation of the
> unload feature. However, I'd like you to confirm the crucial assumption
> underlying this patch: a port reset is the only way a device can
> interfere with another device on the same port. In particular, I haven't
> made an effort to understand pnp and similar stuff completely, but from
> a first glance I got the impression that these things are done per-port
> rather than per-device and that nothing sinister will happen behind our
> back. In short, can you confirm the following:
>
> Condition:  device A on a port is parked (implies there is at least one
>             request on the queue of that device, i.e we hold a
>             reference to the device and thus to the port).
> Assumption: nothing will disturb the device because resets due to
>             command failure / timeouts on device B are deferred (see my
>             patch) and spurious commands like IDENTIFY (or whatever
>             actions may be related to pnp and the like) are not 
>             performed while the device is sleeping and a request is
>             waiting on the queue.

Sorry for spamming you again, but I forgot to mention one more thing: In
my hardware environment, I cannot easily test the code in do_reset1()
which is supposed to defer resets if necessary. Since we have something
very similar in libata (which I have tested), I'm quite confident that
everything will work out nicely. Still, you may want to pay special
attention to this piece of code.

Regards,

Elias

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-12 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-29 21:11 [RFC] Disk shock protection in GNU/Linux (take 2) Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-29 21:16 ` [PATCH 1/4] Introduce ata_id_has_unload() Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-30 11:56   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-30 17:29     ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-30 18:01       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-29 21:20 ` [PATCH 2/4] libata: Implement disk shock protection support Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-30  9:33   ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-30 23:38     ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-31  9:25       ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-31 12:08         ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-31 13:03           ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-31 14:32             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-08-31 17:07               ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-31 19:35                 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-09-01 15:41                   ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-01  2:08                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-09-01  9:37                   ` Matthew Garrett
2008-08-31 16:14             ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-01  8:33               ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-01 14:51                 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-01 16:43                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-03 20:23                     ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-04  9:06                       ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-04 17:32                         ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-05  8:51                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-10 13:53                             ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-10 14:40                               ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-10 19:28                                 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-10 20:23                                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-10 21:04                                     ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-10 22:56                                       ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-11 12:26                                         ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-11 12:51                                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-11 13:01                                             ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-11 18:28                                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-09-11 23:25                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-12 10:15                                                   ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-12 18:11                                                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-09-17 15:26                                           ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-29 21:26 ` [PATCH 3/4] ide: " Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-01 19:29   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-09-03 20:01     ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-03 21:33       ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-05 17:33       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-09-12  9:55         ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-12 11:55           ` Elias Oltmanns [this message]
2008-09-15 19:15           ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-15 23:22             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-09-17 15:28           ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-29 21:28 ` [PATCH 4/4] Add documentation for hard disk shock protection interface Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-08 22:04   ` Randy Dunlap
2008-09-16 16:53     ` Elias Oltmanns

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