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From: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	Paul Ausbeck <paula@soe.ucsc.edu>,
	Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>,
	Joe Breuer <linux-kernel@jmbreuer.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/19] ata: libata-scsi: Disable scsi device manage_start_stop
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2023 15:59:17 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8ca4afdb-bf15-c964-c225-b5f6d7b4d670@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0d7e1e2d-06a8-4992-be0b-7a97646c170d@suse.de>

On 9/11/23 15:46, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> On 9/11/23 06:02, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>> The introduction of a device link to create a consumer/supplier
>> relationship between the scsi device of an ATA device and the ATA port
>> of the ATA device fixed the ordering of the suspend and resume
>> operations. For suspend, the scsi device is suspended first and the ata
>> port after it. This is fine as this allows the synchronize cache and
>> START STOP UNIT commands issued by the scsi disk driver to be executed
>> before the ata port is disabled.
>>
>> For resume operations, the ata port is resumed first, followed
>> by the scsi device. This allows having the request queue of the scsi
>> device to be unfrozen after the ata port restart is scheduled in EH,
>> thus avoiding to see new requests issued to the ATA device prematurely.
>> However, since libata sets manage_start_stop to 1, the scsi disk resume
>> operation also results in issuing a START STOP UNIT command to wakeup
>> the device. This is too late and that must be done before libata EH
>> resume handling starts revalidating the drive with IDENTIFY etc
>> commands. Commit 0a8589055936 ("ata,scsi: do not issue START STOP UNIT
>> on resume") disabled issuing the START STOP UNIT command to avoid
>> issues with it. However, this is incorrect as transitioning a device to
>> the active power mode from the standby power mode set on suspend
>> requires a media access command. The device link reset and subsequent
>> SET FEATURES, IDENTIFY and READ LOG commands executed in libata EH
>> context triggered by the ata port resume operation may thus fail.
>>
>> Fix this by handling a device power mode transitions for suspend and
>> resume in libata EH context without relying on the scsi disk management
>> triggered with the manage_start_stop flag.
>>
>> To do this, the following libata helper functions are introduced:
>>
>> 1) ata_dev_power_set_standby():
>>
>> This function issues a STANDBY IMMEDIATE command to transitiom a device
>> to the standby power mode. For HDDs, this spins down the disks. This
>> function applies only to ATA and ZAC devices and does nothing otherwise.
>> This function also does nothing for devices that have the
>> ATA_FLAG_NO_POWEROFF_SPINDOWN or ATA_FLAG_NO_HIBERNATE_SPINDOWN flag
>> set.
>>
>> For suspend, call ata_dev_power_set_standby() in
>> ata_eh_handle_port_suspend() before the port is disabled and frozen.
>> ata_eh_unload() is also modified to transition all enabled devices to
>> the standby power mode when the system is shutdown or devices removed.
>>
>> 2) ata_dev_power_set_active() and
>>
>> This function applies to ATA or ZAC devices and issues a VERIFY command
>> for 1 sector at LBA 0 to transition the device to the active power mode.
>> For HDDs, since this function will complete only once the disk spin up.
>> Its execution uses the same timeouts as for reset, to give the drive
>> enough time to complete spinup without triggering a command timeout.
>>
> Neat. But why VERIFY?

Ask that to T13 :) Need a media access command to get out of sleep state...
Could use a read, but then need a buffer, which is silly for just waking up a
drive. VERIFY is a mandatory command.

> Isn't there a dedicated command (ie the opposite of STANDBY IMMEDIATE)?
> And can we be sure that VERIFY is implemented everywhere?
> It's not that this command had been in active use until now ...

START STOP UNIT with start == 1 has been translated to a VERIFY command since
forever. This is according to SAT specs. There is no command to explicitly get
out of standby-mode. Even a reset should not change the drive power state
(though I do see a lot of drive waking up on COMRESET). A media access command
does that. See ACS specs "Power Management states and transitions". The only
exception is that you can use SET FEATURE command to wake up a drive, but only
from PUIS state (Power-Up in Standby), which is a different feature that is not
necessarilly supported by a device.

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Hannes

-- 
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research


  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-11  6:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-11  4:01 [PATCH 00/19] Fix libata suspend/resume handling and code cleanup Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  4:01 ` [PATCH 01/19] ata: libata-core: Fix ata_port_request_pm() locking Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:34   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:41   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 02/19] ata: libata-core: Fix port and device removal Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:37   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-11  6:44     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:07       ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:43   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 03/19] ata: libata-scsi: link ata port and scsi device Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:41   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-11  6:48     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:07       ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-11 10:38       ` John Garry
2023-09-11 11:48         ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11 15:15           ` John Garry
2023-09-12  6:13             ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-12  8:49               ` John Garry
2023-09-12  9:00                 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-12  9:19                   ` John Garry
2023-09-13  1:43   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 04/19] ata: libata-scsi: Disable scsi device manage_start_stop Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:46   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-11  6:59     ` Damien Le Moal [this message]
2023-09-11  7:09       ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-14 16:37         ` Phillip Susi
2023-09-13  1:44   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 05/19] ata: libata-scsi: Fix delayed scsi_rescan_device() execution Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:47   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:44   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-14 17:25   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-14 22:05     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 06/19] ata: libata-core: Do not register PM operations for SAS ports Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:50   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:44   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 07/19] scsi: sd: Do not issue commands to suspended disks on remove Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:51   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:45   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-13 20:50   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-14  0:29     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-14 14:39       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 08/19] scsi: Remove scsi device no_start_on_resume flag Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:52   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:45   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-14 17:29   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 09/19] ata: libata-scsi: Cleanup ata_scsi_start_stop_xlat() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:57   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:46   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 10/19] ata: libata-core: Synchronize ata_port_detach() with hotplug Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:58   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:46   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 11/19] ata: libata-core: Detach a port devices on shutdown Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  6:59   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:46   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 12/19] ata: libata-core: Remove ata_port_suspend_async() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:00   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:47   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 13/19] ata: libata-core: Remove ata_port_resume_async() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:00   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:47   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 14/19] ata: libata-core: skip poweroff for devices that are runtime suspended Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:01   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:48   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 15/19] ata: libata-core: Do not resume ports that have been " Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:01   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:48   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 16/19] ata: libata-sata: Improve ata_sas_slave_configure() Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:02   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:48   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 17/19] ata: libata-eh: Improve reset error messages Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:03   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-11 10:03   ` John Garry
2023-09-13  1:49   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 18/19] ata: libata-eh: Reduce "disable device" message verbosity Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:05   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-11 10:14   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2023-09-13  1:49   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)
2023-09-11  4:02 ` [PATCH 19/19] ata: libata: Cleanup inline DMA helper functions Damien Le Moal
2023-09-11  7:06   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-09-13  1:49   ` Chia-Lin Kao (AceLan)

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