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From: Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>, Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
	emisca <emisca.ml@gmail.com>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Loud "pop" coming from hard drive on reboot
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:47:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1He8dA-0000mw-LI@be1.lrz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8bbdm-7iS-27@gated-at.bofh.it

Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com> wrote:

> This really isn't a regression.  It's been always like that with libata.
>  libata doesn't make devices go into standby mode and shutdown(8) does
> it for libata.  The problem here is that libata does issue
> SYNCHRONIZE_CACHE on shutdown.  So, the sequence of event is...
> 
> 1. shutdown(8) issues SYNCHRONIZE_CACHE followed by STANDBY_NOW
> 2. kernel shutdown starts
> 3. libata shutdown issues SYNCHRONIZE_CACHE
> 4. power goes off
> 
> Some drives seem to spin up at step #3 even when its cache is clean and
> power goes off right after the disk finishes the command.  So, it's
> really bad when it happens - spin down, spin up followed by immediate
> power off.
> 
> SCSI part of the fix is queued in scsi-misc-2.6 tree and libata-dev part
> is acked and waiting to be merged, so the fix will be available in
> 2.6.22.  However, it's disabled by default to remain compatible with the
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> current behavior and requires userland change to fully fix the problem.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It sounds like the Schilling kind of compatibility: "The old burner destroyed
your disk on buffer underruns, therefore the new thing should do the same
instead of giving you a perfectly readable data disk."

Guys, not destroying hardware is _NOT_ bad!
-- 
Anger, fear, aggression. The Dark Side of the Force are they.
Once you start down the Dark Path, forever will it dominate your destiny.
        -- Jedi Master Yoda
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       reply	other threads:[~2007-04-18 11:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2007-04-18 11:47               ` Bodo Eggert [this message]
2007-04-18 12:05                 ` Loud "pop" coming from hard drive on reboot Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 12:29                   ` Alan Cox
2007-04-18 12:46                     ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 12:50                       ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 13:03                       ` Alan Cox
2007-04-18 13:05                         ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 13:39                         ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-19  7:18                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-19 12:59                             ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-19 13:32                               ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 14:32                         ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 14:35                           ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 15:06                           ` Alan Cox
2007-04-18 15:16                             ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 15:25                               ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 17:08                                 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 17:19                                   ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 17:46                                     ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-18 21:22                                       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-04-18 21:27                                         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-21 23:20                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-23 23:27                                             ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-18 21:29                                         ` Greg Freemyer
2007-04-18 17:46                                     ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-19 17:50                                       ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-20 12:15                                         ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-20 19:57                                         ` Fabio Comolli
2007-04-21  9:45                                           ` emisca
2007-04-21  9:50                                             ` Fabio Comolli
2007-04-21 14:33                                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-21 15:11                                             ` Fabio Comolli
2007-04-18 17:04                               ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-11 21:07 Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-11 21:16 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 21:35   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-11 21:49     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 22:07       ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-13 19:42         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-04-13 19:36           ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-13 20:47             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-04-13 21:13               ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-15 16:07     ` emisca
2007-04-17 21:41       ` Mark Lord
2007-04-17 21:49         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-17 22:03           ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18  5:39             ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 21:31               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-04-18 23:36               ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 23:51                 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-14 10:52 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-15 15:53   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-04-15 18:50     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-16 22:26       ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-17  7:00         ` emisca
2007-04-17  7:37         ` Fabio Comolli
2007-04-17 20:15         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

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