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From: Niklas Cassel <cassel@kernel.org>
To: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
Cc: Cryptearth <cryptearth@googlemail.com>,
	Andrey Melnikov <temnota.am@gmail.com>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, conikost@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: ASMedia ASM1166/ASM1064 port restrictions will break cards with port-multipliers
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:36:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zfa5iylgKrtrKH8H@ryzen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2e471c2b-8432-4501-b093-4295529a4d38@redhat.com>

Hello Hans,

On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 04:01:07PM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> > 
> > If they only claimed that the HBA supported PMP, the Linux device
> > driver would try to enumerate the devices behind the PMP according
> > to the standard.
> > 
> > See AHCI 1.3.1, section 9.2 Port Multiplier Enumeration.
> > Or
> > SATA-IO - Port Multiplier 1.0, 7.4.2 Device Enumeration.
> > 
> > The PMP standard also describes how you read the device and vendor
> > ID of the PMP.
> > 
> > 
> > Right now, they AMedia? seem to have their own home-made PMP implementation.
> 
> Ah, ok so I think you did see my reply? Checking if we can ignore
> the builtin PMP support and uses Linux PMP support instead is
> indeed an option.

Yes, I saw your reply.

I wouldn't call it "Linux PMP support", I would simply call it "PMP",
since how you enumerate a PMP is decribed in AHCI and SATA-IO specs.

The "builtin PMP support" is not PMP, since it doesn't follow the specs.
I would rather call it "non-standard vendor extension" or "pseudo-PMP".


> I think we should still merge the revert / dropping of the quirk
> while we figure this out though, because not finding people's disks
> anymore is a clear regression.

I was hoping that someone could try the patch I sent out on Thursday,
which sets the PMP supported bit in the CAP register, as that could
potentially solve both problems here.

I guess if no one has tested it by Monday or Tuesday, we will have
no choice but to revert.


Kind regards,
Niklas

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-03-17  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAFDm6W19R3KHDO09c94Uwry9mdG+whAVy=u4Sdpt30A2MK1KPA@mail.gmail.com>
2024-03-13  6:36 ` ASMedia ASM1166/ASM1064 port restrictions will break cards with port-multipliers Andrey Melnikov
2024-03-13 17:37   ` Cryptearth
2024-03-13 21:21     ` Hans de Goede
2024-03-13 21:52       ` Re[2]: " Conrad Kostecki
2024-03-13 22:20         ` Hans de Goede
2024-03-16 14:01           ` Andrey Jr. Melnikov
2024-03-17  1:34             ` Cryptearth
2024-03-14 15:58     ` Niklas Cassel
2024-03-15 15:01       ` Hans de Goede
2024-03-16 11:33         ` Cryptearth
2024-03-16 11:45           ` Re[2]: " Conrad Kostecki
     [not found]             ` <CAFDm6W2nCj+qw=-7Sb9xcJTYZ8sitwUriR+Qdh9fo9+ET1Oo=g@mail.gmail.com>
2024-03-17 22:58               ` Fwd: " Cryptearth
2024-03-17 23:04                 ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                   ` <CAFDm6W2X_2Nhn4ZeDd-=6Sra-evDW8Dx_CE0m5yggXpOXNTQ9g@mail.gmail.com>
2024-03-17 23:25                     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                       ` <CAFDm6W3pe+nv5CTcEq2FwGbKS4Cdu+7xdLa1Zy6iODampfwxsw@mail.gmail.com>
2024-03-17 23:48                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-18 10:56                 ` Niklas Cassel
2024-03-18 11:07                   ` Hans de Goede
2024-03-18 11:31                     ` Niklas Cassel
2024-03-18 11:53                     ` Damien Le Moal
2024-03-18 14:21                       ` Hans de Goede
2024-03-18 23:59                         ` Damien Le Moal
2024-03-17  9:36         ` Niklas Cassel [this message]
2024-03-15 21:19 Ioannis Barkas
2024-03-17  9:46 ` Niklas Cassel

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