From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
sandeen@redhat.com
Subject: Re: ATA support for 4k sector size
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:55:42 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq11vtmhy0x.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49A5D76A.3010301@zytor.com> (H. Peter Anvin's message of "Wed\, 25 Feb 2009 15\:42\:34 -0800")
>>>>> "hpa" == H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> writes:
>> Because of 63-sector legacy problems a bunch of ATA vendors will
>> initially ship 512/4096 drives that are not naturally aligned.
>> I.e. logical sector 63 will be aligned on a 4KB hardware sector
>> boundary to overcome the misaligned default partitioning.
>>
hpa> I was under the impression Vista didn't do this? Is there any way
hpa> to force these drives into a sane mode (at the expense of a total
hpa> data loss)?
Modern Windows aligns the first partition on a 1 MB boundary.
As far as disks go, initially the plan was to have "legacy" branded
drives with 63-sector alignment. But I think that has been abandoned in
favor of instant one-time formatting. I.e. you can pick your poison
*once* and that formatting will be done in constant time. Any
subsequent changes to blocking and alignment will require a real
low-level format.
That's all fine and dandy if you go down and buy a drive a Fry's and
you're the first to use it. But we don't have that luxury on systems
that come preinstalled with Windows. In that case we have to deal with
whatever the OEM decided during manufacturing.
IOW, we have to deal with all the possible configurations.
--
Martin K. Petersen Oracle Linux Engineering
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-25 23:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-25 22:24 ATA support for 4k sector size Matthew Wilcox
2009-02-25 22:24 ` [PATCH 1/2] ata: Define new commands from ATA8 Matthew Wilcox
2009-02-25 22:24 ` [PATCH 2/2] ata: Add support for Long Logical Sectors and Long Physical Sectors Matthew Wilcox
2009-02-25 22:53 ` ATA support for 4k sector size H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-25 23:27 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-02-25 23:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-25 23:51 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-02-26 12:43 ` Karel Zak
2009-02-26 15:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-25 23:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-25 23:55 ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2009-02-25 23:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-26 0:07 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-02-26 0:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-26 0:17 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-02-25 23:49 ` david
2009-02-26 0:04 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-02-26 0:13 ` david
2009-02-26 0:20 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-02-26 2:50 ` Theodore Tso
2009-02-26 3:05 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-02-26 3:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-02-26 3:23 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-12-11 7:05 ` James Andrewartha
2009-12-11 7:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-12-11 7:32 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-02-26 5:16 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-02-26 12:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-02-26 15:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-26 20:35 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-02-26 21:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-16 14:51 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-03-16 16:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-16 17:37 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-03-16 18:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-22 1:20 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-03-18 14:33 ` James Bottomley
2009-02-26 18:22 ` hdparm-9.12 released Mark Lord
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