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From: Steven Presser <steve@pressers.name>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>
Cc: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	Hartmut Knaack <knaack.h@gmx.de>,
	Jeremy Cline <jeremy@jcline.org>,
	Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	Jonathan Cameron <jic23@jic23.retrosnub.co.uk>,
	Lars Kellogg-Stedman <lars@oddbit.com>,
	Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Meerwald-Stadler <pmeerw@pmeerw.net>,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] iio: accel: bmc150: Check for a second ACPI device for BOSC0200
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 14:27:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <197f448e-322f-dae4-aa4b-3cc2bd5b16bb@pressers.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHp75VfmH5aNPzBLvm-GrQ-49uyJNNwdjbte3uh_kmaC91bz6A@mail.gmail.com>

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On 01/30/2018 02:05 PM, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 8:34 PM, Steven Presser <steve@pressers.name> wrote:
>> Andy,
>>
>> I apologize for the long response, but there's several issues to address
>> here.
> NP, it it a good explanation why. That's what commit message missed apparently.
Probably my fault anyway - I don't recall discussing with Jeremy exactly 
what chip was inside this little Frankenstein.
>
>> First, I believe the "bmc150" in the subject line is in some way a misnomer.
>> You'd have to ask Jeremy for more details on what he intended it to refer
>> to.  However, I believe the device in question is actually the bma250[1],
>> which does not have a magnetometer component.  I'm unfortunately away from
>> my notes, but I can check later if you need me to verify the exact chip.
> Please do, I would really be on the safe side here.
Will do.  My digital notes indicate I worked from what was exposed back 
to what chip matched.  If you can give me through Friday evening, I'll 
crack it and do a visual verification.  (Alas, I'm traveling and won't 
be back to it until then).
>
>> Second, we're seeing a difference between what's in the data sheet and
>> what's exposed in the wild via ACPI.  I own the laptop that started the
>> process of building this patch and I did the original ACPI-tables
>> investigation.
>>
>> The device in question (BOSC0200) appears in the Lenovo Yoga 11e (and
>> possibly other laptops - this happens to be the one I own). These laptops
>> have a 360-degree hinge between the screen and the keyboard, letting them
>> convert into tablets, if the user desires. The 11e implements this
>> mode-switching by placing an accelerometer in each of the screen and
>> keyboard, then doing math with the resulting vectors to figure out the angle
>> between the two.
> This makes a lot of sense.
>
>>   For whatever reason, Lenovo chose to expose these two
>> (physically separate) accelerometers via a single ACPI device which presents
>> two i2c devices at sequential addresses.
>
>> As part of my original investigation of the Yoga 11e, I wrote a
>> proof-of-concept of pulling accelerometer data from the two devices exposed
>> under the BOSC0200 ID and using that to calculate the position of the screen
>> relative to the keyboard.  So based on my empirical experience, I can tell
>> you the BOSC0200 device ID can expose two accelerometers at sequential
>> addresses in the wild.
>>
>> I don't understand why Lenovo has reused the BOSC0200 ACPI device ID for a
>> device that is fundamentally different from the base device. The ID doesn't
>> belong to them and we're (apparently) now stuck in this situation where this
>> ACPI device ID could represent two different device layouts.
> Bad, bad Lenovo. (DMI strings might help here)
What particular DMI strings would be helpful?  All of them?
>
>> Finally - Andy, I apologize if I came across as challenging you in my
>> initial mail.  I was trying to strike a balance between brevity/respecting
>> your time and asking a question.  Evidently I struck the wrong balance and
>> should have given you more background on why I was doubting what you saw.
>> This is my fault and you have my sincerest apologies for any offense I have
>> caused.
> No need, the root cause is lack of description in the commit message.
>
> Nevertheless, the approach chosen I don't like. It looks like an ugly hack.
>
> What we can do here is:
> - do not contaminate core part with I2C/SPI/etc
> - do not create another driver via board_info, we already in *the same* driver,
> so, the better approach here AFAICS is to add DMI quirk into i2c-core-acpi
>
>
>
>> Steve
>>
>> [1]
>> https://ae-bst.resource.bosch.com/media/_tech/media/datasheets/BST-BMA250E-DS004-06.pdf



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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-30 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-06 17:52 [PATCH v2] iio: accel: bmc150: Check for a second ACPI device for BOSC0200 Jeremy Cline
2017-12-10 18:21 ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-01-09 21:24   ` Jeremy Cline
2018-01-14 10:43     ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-01-28  9:40       ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-01-29 14:07         ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-01-30 16:01           ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-01-30 16:40             ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-01-30 17:05               ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-01-30 17:25                 ` Steve Presser
2018-01-30 17:38                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-01-30 18:08                     ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-01-30 18:33                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-01-30 18:46                         ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-01-30 18:47                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-01-30 18:34                     ` Steven Presser
2018-01-30 19:05                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-01-30 19:27                         ` Steven Presser [this message]
2018-01-30 20:12                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-01-30 21:20                             ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-01-31 10:55                               ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-02-04 18:25                               ` Steven Presser
2018-02-15 12:50                                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-02-15 18:06                                   ` Steve Presser
2018-02-16 14:50                                     ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-02-04 17:58                             ` Steven Presser
2018-02-06 19:47                               ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-01-31 11:43                     ` Hans de Goede
2018-01-31 12:25                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-01-31 14:58                         ` Hans de Goede
2018-01-31 15:19                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-01-31 19:53                           ` Jeremy Cline
2018-01-30 15:22         ` Jeremy Cline

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