From: Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>
To: Azael Avalos <coproscefalo@gmail.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>,
"platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org"
<platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] toshiba_acpi: Add accelerometer input polled device
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 17:04:30 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140909000429.GB5835@vmdeb7> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGdLNWGhdQU3Fpud9Zgvx3AQ5Lb=WdEkJb_wWTb1hJoHxXPXpQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 11:04:18PM -0600, Azael Avalos wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> 2014-09-05 20:42 GMT-06:00 Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>:
> > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 11:14:05AM -0600, Azael Avalos wrote:
> >> The accelerometer sensor is very sensitive, and having userspace
> >> poll the sysfs position entry is not very battery friendly.
> >>
> >> This patch removes the sysfs entry and instead, it creates an
> >> input polled device (joystick) for the built-in accelerometer.
> >
> > Hrm, while sysfs details can change across kernel versions, usually due to
> > driver core changes, we try to keep them as consistent as possible so as not to
> > break userspace.
> >
> > That said, if we are going to try and come up with a better model for
> > representing an accelerometer, wouldn't treating it as an IIO device be the more
> > logical approach?
>
> Yes of course, but the actual accelerometer device (sensor?) is not
> really exposed,
> only certain "functions" it provides, and they are divided across two
> different ACPI devices,
> TOS620A exposes the protection, and the TOS1900 (and et. al.) only
> exposes the axes.
As I understand it, IIO defines an interface to a device, a standard sysfs set
of properties. I should think we could provide the appropriate callbacks even
for a partially implemented (or a pair of) accelerometer.
Jonathan, what are your thoughts here. Is such a "device" (ACPI accessors to
axis and threshold) a candidate for IIO, or is this input polled device more
appropriate?
>
> I see your point in breaking userspace, but given the fact that it was
> recently introduced,
> I didn't thought it was already "adopted", that's why I decided to
> remove the sysfs entry.
Looks like since 3.15 if I read the log correctly. That is fairly recent and
this is not one of the "defined interfaces" in the sysfs documentation.
Greg, can you weigh in here - does this change count as "breaking userspace", or
is this more inline with the scheduler knobs in /proc/sched_debug which can
change from version to version.
>
> Then we might as well keep the sysfs entry and have the input polled
> device as well.
Let's see what Greg has to say. If he isn't bothered by the change, I won't push
the issue.
--
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center
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2014-09-09 0:04 ` Darren Hart [this message]
2014-09-09 1:35 ` [PATCH 3/5] toshiba_acpi: Add accelerometer input polled device Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-09-10 3:35 ` Darren Hart
2014-09-10 15:28 ` Azael Avalos
2014-09-10 16:08 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-09-17 16:36 ` Jonathan Cameron
2014-09-17 18:38 ` Darren Hart
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