From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
To: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>
Cc: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
Adriana Reus <adi.reus@gmail.com>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Hartmut Knaack <knaack.h@gmx.de>,
"Lars-Peter Clausen" <lars@metafoo.de>,
Peter Meerwald-Stadler <pmeerw@pmeerw.net>,
Mathias Duckeck <m.duckeck@kunbus.de>,
Phil Elwell <phil@raspberrypi.org>,
Oskar Andero <oskar.andero@gmail.com>,
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Akinobu Mita <akinobu.mita@gmail.com>,
Manfred Schlaegl <manfred.schlaegl@gmx.at>,
Michael Welling <mwelling@ieee.org>,
"Soeren Andersen" <san@rosetechnology.dk>,
<linux-iio@vger.kernel.org>, <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
"Abhisit Sangjan" <s.abhisit@gmail.com>,
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, <linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] dt-bindings: iio: adc: mcp320x: Update for mcp3550/1/3
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 13:36:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170904133643.00004c84@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170903182046.GA1511@wunner.de>
On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 20:20:46 +0200
Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 03, 2017 at 02:37:49PM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 03:33:00PM +0200, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/adc/mcp320x.txt
> > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/adc/mcp320x.txt
> > > +Optional properties:
> > > + - microchip,continuous-conversion (boolean):
> > > + Only applicable to MCP3550/1/3: These ADCs have long
> > > + conversion times and therefore support "continuous
> > > + conversion mode" to allow retrieval of conversions
> > > + at any time without observing a delay. The mode is
> > > + enabled by permanently driving CS low, e.g. by wiring
> > > + it to ground.
> >
> > hmm. This is odd. We probably need to make the SPI subsystem aware
> > of this. It is possible to ask for exclusive use of an SPI bus and
> > I think we should be doing this here. It may be wired low on your
> > board, but it may be wired to a controllable chip select on other
> > boards and we can still force it low to trigger this mode if it makes
> > sense for the current application.
> >
> > So I'd argue what we actually need to represent here is that the CS line
> > is not controllable. What this means to the driver should be handled
> > in the driver - ideally also dealing with the case where it is controllable
> > appropriately (via exclusive bus usage). Spi devices have the SPI_NO_CS
> > bit in the mode member of the spi device but I'm not sure about bindings.
> [...]
> > The one case where we normally want to flip to continuous modes is when
> > we have a chardev access going on to the device. In IIO that reflects
> > the fact we are in a push mode rather than userspace polling for new data.
>
> It seems there is no DT binding so far to set SPI_NO_CS.
Time to add one perhaps ;)
>
> Conceivably, continuous mode could be used even with multiple devices
> on the bus if CLK and MISO is AND-gated with the CS signal coming from
> the SPI master. (And the CS of the ADC is pulled low.) In that case,
> the notion that "continuous mode == CS not controllable" would be
> incorrect, hence the approach I've chosen.
>
> On the Revolution Pi we don't use continuous mode. I merely included
> it in the driver for completeness. If it is too controversial I'd be
> inclined to drop the feature.
>
> On-demand switching to continuous mode by keeping CS low would be
> possible by setting the cs_change bit of struct mcp320x ->transfer[1],
> but that might not work if there are other devices on the bus.
>
spi has exclusive bus access functions. Doing this sort of thing isn't
that unusual. Some devices require that the cs is held low whilst they
take a single reading, but provide an interrupt for when they are done.
For those we have to hold it for some time.
>
> > Personally I don't think we are in a position yet to make this a generic
> > property - this is the first device where it is actually to do with the
> > physical circuit (and arguably it isn't really - see above).
>
> Okay.
>
>
> > Reference voltages are an oddity as the supply naming typically should match
> > that on the datasheet. It's 'fairly' consistent but some devices
> > have a set of relatively obscure references to different parts of the
> > input circuitry. We can document it as a 'default' assuming nothing
> > strange is going on though. This is why we have the vagueness below
> > on VDD and VCC.
>
> That is new to me, I believe it's not documented or am I missing something?
> I'd be happy to respin the below patch without the "Continuous mode"
> portion if you want? (Amended with the info you gave above.)
It might make sense to drop continuous mode with the intent to add it
as a follow up patch. Lets see what Mark and co come back with on how
to support the hard wired cs on the spi.
> Do you think iio-bindings.txt is the right place to put this or would
> a separate common.txt be more appropriate? (See e.g. leds/common.txt)
Perhaps a question best directed to the devicetree binding maintainers.
I can't say that I personally care either way ;)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lukas
>
> > -- >8 --
> > Subject: [PATCH] dt-bindings: iio: Document common properties
> >
> > It's about time we standardize on common names for frequently used IIO
> > properties. For starters, document "vref-supply" and "continuous".
> >
> > Suggested-by: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
> > Signed-off-by: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>
> > ---
> > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt | 15 +++++++++++++++
> > 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt
> > index 68d6f8c..c3e87e15 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt
> > @@ -95,3 +95,18 @@ vdd channel is connected to output 0 of the &ref device.
> > io-channels = <&adc 10>, <&adc 11>;
> > io-channel-names = "adc1", "adc2";
> > };
> > +
> > +==Common IIO properties==
> > +
> > +Reference voltage:
> > +ADCs, DACs and several other IIO devices require a reference voltage.
> > +By convention the property specifying this regulator is named "vref-supply".
> > +If the chip lacks a dedicated Vref pin and instead uses its own power supply
> > +as reference, the property specifying the regulator is commonly named
> > +"vdd-supply" or "vcc-supply".
> > +
> > +Continuous mode:
> > +Some sensors can be configured to perform continuous (versus one-shot)
> > +measurements. Continuous mode may require more energy in return for faster
> > +or more reliable measurements. A boolean property named "continuous"
> > +signifies that the device is configured for this mode.
> > --
> > 2.11.0
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-09-04 12:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-22 13:33 [PATCH 0/6] IIO driver for MCP3550/1/3 Lukas Wunner
2017-08-22 13:33 ` [PATCH 6/6] iio: adc: mcp320x: Add support for mcp3550/1/3 Lukas Wunner
2017-09-03 14:22 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-09-07 6:44 ` Lukas Wunner
2017-09-10 13:40 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-22 13:33 ` [PATCH 4/6] iio: adc: mcp320x: Drop unnecessary of_device_id attributes Lukas Wunner
2017-09-03 13:59 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-22 13:33 ` [PATCH 3/6] iio: adc: mcp320x: Speed up readout of single-channel ADCs Lukas Wunner
2017-09-03 13:48 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-22 13:33 ` [PATCH 5/6] dt-bindings: iio: adc: mcp320x: Update for mcp3550/1/3 Lukas Wunner
2017-08-25 19:59 ` Rob Herring
2017-08-27 15:34 ` Lukas Wunner
2017-08-29 7:21 ` Adriana Reus
2017-09-03 13:37 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-09-03 18:20 ` Lukas Wunner
2017-09-04 12:36 ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2017-09-04 17:22 ` Mark Brown
2017-09-10 13:36 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-09-05 18:49 ` Rob Herring
2017-08-22 13:33 ` [PATCH 1/6] iio: adc: mcp320x: Fix oops on module unload Lukas Wunner
2017-09-03 13:41 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-22 13:33 ` [PATCH 2/6] iio: adc: mcp320x: Fix readout of negative voltages Lukas Wunner
2017-09-03 13:44 ` Jonathan Cameron
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