From: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
To: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Rosin <peda@axentia.se>,
Naresh Solanki <naresh.solanki@9elements.com>,
Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
mazziesaccount@gmail.com, linux-iio@vger.kernel.org,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: iio: afe: voltage-divider: Add io-channel-cells
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:49:20 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240127144920.455b6f0c@jic23-huawei> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240127-hunting-wick-fc1eed1af6b1@spud>
On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 11:03:14 +0000
Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 10:40:31AM +0100, Peter Rosin wrote:
> >
> >
> > 2024-01-26 at 23:14, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 11:10:36PM +0530, Naresh Solanki wrote:
> >
> > > I did look at what you have there and I think your dts is wrong.
> > >
> > > The iio-hwmon binding says:
> > > | description: >
> > > | Bindings for hardware monitoring devices connected to ADC controllers
> > > | supporting the Industrial I/O bindings.
> > > |
> > > | io-channels:
> > > | minItems: 1
> > > | maxItems: 51 # Should be enough
> > > | description: >
> > > | List of phandles to ADC channels to read the monitoring values
> > >
> > > And then you have:
> > > | iio-hwmon {
> > > | compatible = "iio-hwmon";
> > > | // Voltage sensors top to down
> > > | io-channels = <&p12v_vd 0>, <&p5v_aux_vd 0>, <&p5v_bmc_aux_vd 0>, <&p3v3_aux_vd 0>,
> > > | <&p3v3_bmc_aux_vd 0>, <&p1v8_bmc_aux_vd 0>, <&adc1 4>, <&adc0 2>, <&adc1 0>,
> > > | <&p2V5_aux_vd 0>, <&p3v3_rtc_vd 0>;
> > > | };
> > > |
> > > | p12v_vd: voltage_divider1 {
> > > | compatible = "voltage-divider";
> > > | io-channels = <&adc1 3>;
> > > | #io-channel-cells = <1>;
> > > |
> > > | /* Scale the system voltage by 1127/127 to fit the ADC range.
> > > | * Use small nominator to prevent integer overflow.
> > > | */
> > > | output-ohms = <15>;
> > > | full-ohms = <133>;
> > > | };
> > >
> > > A voltage divider is _not_ an ADC channel, so I don't know why you are
> > > treating it as one in the iio-hwmon entry. Can you explain this please?
> >
> > This is the exact intent of the voltage divider (and the other bindings
> > handled by the iio-rescaler). The raw ADC reports the voltage at its input,
> > which is fine, but if there is an analog frontend in front of the ADC
> > such as a voltage divider the voltage at the ADC is not the interesting
> > property. You are likely to want the "real" voltage before the voltage
> > divider to better understand the value.
> >
> > In this case it's much more interesting to see values such as 12.050V
> > which is presumably close to the nominal voltage (12V? guessing from
> > the node name) rather than some unscaled raw ADC voltage (in this
> > example it would be ~1.359V, which tells you rather little w/o rescaling
> > it first).
>
> Thanks for explaining it. Naresh, can you respin please with an
> explanation of why the property belongs in the binding please?
Agreed - the explanation of 'why' is needed.
As discussed, in this case the end consumer is iio-hwmon
(reflecting that the thing we are ultimately 'measuring' as a voltage
of a wire that needs monitoring for hwmon usecases) and
that is measured via a voltage divider (hence that's providing
the measurement service) which in turn needs to consume the reading
from and ADC and hence the middle device is here acting as a
provider to iio-hwmon and a consumer of the ADC channel.
p.s. No one really likes the iio-hwmon binding because it is reflecting
a usecase rather than hardware, but meh, it's been around a long time
and we never figured out a better option.
Things are much cleaner for circuits like the voltage divider.
>
> > It's all in the description of the binding...
>
> Obviously it was not sufficiently clear, it's not as if I didn't look at
> it...
Given this device fits in both categories, perhaps a tiny bit of
additional documentation would help?
'#io-channels-cells':
description:
In addition to consuming the measurement services of an ADC,
the voltage divider can act as an provider of measurement
services to other devices.
const: 1
>
> Cheers,
> Conor.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-27 14:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-26 11:55 [PATCH] dt-bindings: iio: afe: voltage-divider: Add io-channel-cells Naresh Solanki
2024-01-26 16:16 ` Conor Dooley
2024-01-26 16:25 ` Naresh Solanki
2024-01-26 16:51 ` Conor Dooley
2024-01-26 17:40 ` Naresh Solanki
2024-01-26 22:14 ` Conor Dooley
2024-01-27 9:40 ` Peter Rosin
2024-01-27 11:03 ` Conor Dooley
2024-01-27 14:49 ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2024-01-27 16:48 ` Conor Dooley
2024-01-27 16:55 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-01-26 22:16 ` Peter Rosin
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