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From: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
To: "Stan, Liviu" <Liviu.Stan@analog.com>
Cc: "Nuno Sá" <noname.nuno@gmail.com>,
	"Lars-Peter Clausen" <lars@metafoo.de>,
	"Hennerich, Michael" <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
	"Sa, Nuno" <Nuno.Sa@analog.com>,
	"David Lechner" <dlechner@baylibre.com>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andy@kernel.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"linux-iio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-iio@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] iio: temperature: ltc2983: Add support for ADT7604
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 16:56:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260512165654.5adeba0f@jic23-huawei> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SA5PR03MB83776E4DF7B5542B40C3B925F6392@SA5PR03MB8377.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>

On Tue, 12 May 2026 12:26:02 +0000
"Stan, Liviu" <Liviu.Stan@analog.com> wrote:

> On Tue, May 12, 2026, Nuno Sá wrote:
> > > > What I'm not too convinced is that coverage is relative to what? Well
> > > > it's a percentage so I guess we could not care and leave interpretation to
> > > > userspace (to know which device is dealing with). Still I wonder if a
> > > > new iio_chan_info wouldn't be more appropriate? In this case applied to
> > > > iio_resistance. So something like:
> > > >
> > > > in_resistance_coverage_ratio
> > > >
> > > > So it's clear what physical quantity coverage ratio is affecting.  
> > >
> > > I still think a new channel type is the right approach. Consider copper
> > > trace sensors - they also support a custom table, and when one is
> > > provided the chip outputs both a resistance result and a temperature
> > > result (the interpolation output), each in their own register bank. The
> > > current approach handles that with separate IIO_RESISTANCE and
> > > IIO_TEMP channels. So, for consistency, if we use a chan_info
> > > attribute for the leak detector coverage output, we would need to do
> > > the same for the copper trace temperature output. Since IIO_TEMP
> > > makes sense for the interpolation result for copper traces and
> > > because it is a distinct physical quantity output by the chip, I think it
> > > would make the most sense that leak detectors follow the same
> > > pattern and create a separate IIO channel.
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> > >  
> > 
> > Yeah, makes sense. Jonathan already put it very nicely for the distinct
> > channel case.  
> 
> Sorry, I saw the last two messages only after I sent my reply.
> 
> On Tue, May 12, 2026, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> > > I do wonder if a complete type is what we want? How will we present it?
> > > 
> > > in_coverage_ratio?
> > > 
> > > What I'm not too convinced is that coverage is relative to what? Well
> > > it's a percentage so I guess we could not care and leave interpretation to
> > > userspace (to know which device is dealing with). Still I wonder if a
> > > new iio_chan_info wouldn't be more appropriate? In this case applied to
> > > iio_resistance. So something like:
> > > 
> > > in_resistance_coverage_ratio  
> > 
> > I'm perhaps missing something - as far as I understand it there is no meaningful
> > connection to resistance in what is being measured.
> > I think what you are proposing is similar to measuring current via voltage
> > drop over a sense resistor. We don't present that as modified voltage, we
> > present it as current.
> >
> > Here the thing being measured is coverage rather than resistance
> > so keeping resistance in there is confusing for the user.
> >
> > If we wanted a type to modify then we could do this as a modified area measurement.
> > Channel type IIO_AREA (which is new) and modifier IIO_MOD_RATIO (also new).  
> 
> On the implementation: you originally suggested IIO_COVERAGE_PERCENT,
> which would give in_coveragepercent0_raw in sysfs. The IIO_AREA + IIO_MOD_RATIO
> alternative would give in_area0_ratio_raw, which is more generic but less
> immediately obvious for a leak detector. Do you have a preference 
> between the two?

I wonder what other reasonable area sensors we'll get in future?
Maybe more specific is better here - like humidityrelative (we've never had
an absolute humidity sensor because they are really hard to build!)

Jonathan
> 
> Thanks,
> Liviu
> 


      reply	other threads:[~2026-05-12 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-27 13:25 [PATCH 0/2] iio: temperature: ltc2983: Add support for ADT7604 Liviu Stan
2026-04-27 13:25 ` [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: iio: temperature: Add ADT7604 support to adi,ltc2983 Liviu Stan
2026-04-27 19:34   ` Conor Dooley
2026-05-06 13:06     ` Stan, Liviu
2026-05-06 17:26       ` Conor Dooley
2026-05-07  8:53         ` Stan, Liviu
2026-04-28 14:58   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-06 14:52     ` Stan, Liviu
2026-05-07 10:35       ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-04-27 13:25 ` [PATCH 2/2] iio: temperature: ltc2983: Add support for ADT7604 Liviu Stan
2026-04-27 18:23   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-05-07 15:31     ` Stan, Liviu
2026-05-08  7:44       ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-05-12  7:12         ` Stan, Liviu
2026-05-12  7:57           ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-05-12  9:37             ` Stan, Liviu
2026-05-12 16:25               ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-04-28 11:14   ` Nuno Sá
2026-05-07 17:25     ` Stan, Liviu
2026-05-08  9:19       ` Nuno Sá
2026-05-08 11:14         ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-08 12:46           ` Stan, Liviu
2026-05-08 13:44             ` Nuno Sá
2026-05-08 14:48               ` Stan, Liviu
2026-05-08 16:13                 ` Nuno Sá
2026-05-09 14:46                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-11  7:52                     ` Stan, Liviu
2026-05-11 11:18                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-11 12:02                         ` Stan, Liviu
2026-05-12  8:24                           ` Nuno Sá
2026-05-12 10:55                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-12 11:06                               ` Nuno Sá
2026-05-12 11:55                             ` Stan, Liviu
2026-05-12 12:06                               ` Nuno Sá
2026-05-12 12:26                                 ` Stan, Liviu
2026-05-12 15:56                                   ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]

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