From: "Nicola Corna" <nicola@corna.info>
To: "Jean Delvare" <jdelvare@suse.de>,
"Jonathan Cameron" <jic23@kernel.org>,
"Wolfram Sang" <wsa@the-dreams.de>
Cc: "Lars-Peter Clausen" <lars@metafoo.de>,
"Peter Meerwald" <pmeerw@pmeerw.net>,
linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, "Hartmut Knaack" <knaack.h@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] iio:humidity:si7020: added No Hold read mode
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 07:32:02 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3d9e0164f7d0186d5c6385622dff7e4d@rainloop.corna.info> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1440686436.25403.13.camel@chaos.site>
August 27 2015 4:40 PM, "Jean Delvare" <jdelvare@suse.de> wrote:
> Le Sunday 23 August 2015 à 09:50 +0000, Nicola Corna a écrit :
>
>> August 22 2015 4:00 PM, "Jonathan Cameron" <jic23@kernel.org> wrote:
>>> On 20/08/15 15:11, Nicola Corna wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Si7013/20/21 modules support 2 read modes:
>>>> * Hold mode, where the device stretches the clock until the end of the
>>>> measurement
>>>> * No Hold mode, where the device replies NACK for every I2C call during
>>>> the measurement
>>>> Here the No Hold mode is implemented, selectable with the boolean
>>>> parameter holdmode=N. The No Hold mode is less efficient, since it
>>>> requires multiple calls to the device, but it can be used as a fallback if
>>>> the clock stretching is not supported.
>>>
>>> Interesting. Strikes me as something that should really be handled via the i2c
>>> core (and device tree or similar bindings) rather than inside a driver as
>>> a module parameter. Perhaps info provided to the i2c client driver
>>> via a check on whether the device supports clock stretching?
>
> There currently is no way for bus drivers to report whether they support
> clock stretching or not. We could add a functionality flag for this,
> like:
>
> #define I2C_FUNC_NO_CLK_STRETCH 0x00000040 /* No check for SCL low */
>
> For example i2c-algo-bit would set this flag if no getscl callback is
> provided.
Something like this?
---
drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.c | 5 ++++-
include/uapi/linux/i2c.h | 1 +
2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.c b/drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.c
index 899bede..618deb3 100644
--- a/drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.c
+++ b/drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.c
@@ -605,7 +605,10 @@ static u32 bit_func(struct i2c_adapter *adap)
return I2C_FUNC_I2C | I2C_FUNC_NOSTART | I2C_FUNC_SMBUS_EMUL |
I2C_FUNC_SMBUS_READ_BLOCK_DATA |
I2C_FUNC_SMBUS_BLOCK_PROC_CALL |
- I2C_FUNC_10BIT_ADDR | I2C_FUNC_PROTOCOL_MANGLING;
+ I2C_FUNC_10BIT_ADDR | I2C_FUNC_PROTOCOL_MANGLING |
+ (((struct i2c_algo_bit_data *)adap->algo_data)->getscl ?
+ 0 : I2C_FUNC_NO_CLK_STRETCH);
+
}
diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/i2c.h b/include/uapi/linux/i2c.h
index b0a7dd6..59e4b43 100644
--- a/include/uapi/linux/i2c.h
+++ b/include/uapi/linux/i2c.h
@@ -88,6 +88,7 @@ struct i2c_msg {
#define I2C_FUNC_SMBUS_PEC 0x00000008
#define I2C_FUNC_NOSTART 0x00000010 /* I2C_M_NOSTART */
#define I2C_FUNC_SLAVE 0x00000020
+#define I2C_FUNC_NO_CLK_STRETCH 0x00000040 /* No check for SCL low */
#define I2C_FUNC_SMBUS_BLOCK_PROC_CALL 0x00008000 /* SMBus 2.0 */
#define I2C_FUNC_SMBUS_QUICK 0x00010000
#define I2C_FUNC_SMBUS_READ_BYTE 0x00020000
--
Why do we have to use a negative flag? Doesn't it make more sense to use a
I2C_FUNC_CLK_STRETCH flag and add it to every device that supports it?
>> Reasonable, but we also have to consider that:
>> * it can happen that the device supports clock stretching but it is bugged
>> (like the Raspberry Pi)
>
> I can't really see the difference between "supports clock stretching but
> it is bugged" and "does not support clock stretching.
>
>> * with the clock stretching the i2c bus is completely locked until the end of
>> the measurement (which can take up to 22.8 ms), while with the No Hold mode the
>> bus is used every 2-6 ms for very short periods (with a i2c clock at 100 KHz,
>> each call takes 0.1 ms)
>
> I2C puts no limit on clock stretching and SMBus allows for up to 50 ms,
> so hopefully 22.8 ms should be non-fatal in most cases. But I understand
> there may be latency concerns.
>
>> In some cases the No Hold mode is preferable, even if the clock stretching is
>> supported and working.
>
> Got it. But something like I2C_FUNC_NO_CLK_STRETCH would let drivers
> pick a sane default at least.
I've looked for similar situations in the kernel code and I've found this module
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/hwmon/shtc1
The situation is identical, but here the developer used shtc1_platform_data to
pass the parameter. This solution seems better to me (multiple instances can
have different parameters), but can a parameter in a platform_data be passed
with a userspace instantiation?
>>> I'd like input from Jean on this.
>
> In fact you wanted input from Wolfram (Cc'd) as the new (you know, like
> for 3 years now) maintainer of the i2c subsystem ;-)
>
> --
> Jean Delvare
> SUSE L3 Support
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-28 8:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-20 14:11 [PATCH 1/3] iio:humidity:si7020: replaced bitmask on humidity values with range check Nicola Corna
2015-08-20 14:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] iio:humidity:si7020: added No Hold read mode Nicola Corna
2015-08-22 14:00 ` Jonathan Cameron
2015-08-23 9:50 ` Nicola Corna
2015-08-27 14:40 ` Jean Delvare
2015-08-27 16:12 ` Jonathan Cameron
2015-08-28 7:32 ` Nicola Corna [this message]
2015-08-28 10:00 ` Jean Delvare
2015-08-20 14:11 ` [PATCH 3/3] iio:humidity:si7020: added processed data Nicola Corna
2015-08-21 7:34 ` Crt Mori
2015-08-22 17:21 ` Jonathan Cameron
2015-08-22 17:50 ` Nicola Corna
2015-08-20 20:49 ` [PATCH 1/3] iio:humidity:si7020: replaced bitmask on humidity values with range check Hartmut Knaack
2015-08-20 21:57 ` Nicola Corna
2015-08-21 8:34 ` Hartmut Knaack
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