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From: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@cam.ac.uk>
To: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>
Cc: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org,
	Patrice Vilchez <patrice.vilchez@atmel.com>,
	Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@atmel.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] ARM: AT91: IIO: Add AT91 ADC driver.
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:19:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E9FE793.3050208@cam.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111020104919.303e3133@skate>

On 10/20/11 09:49, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> Le Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:33:29 +0100,
> Jonathan Cameron <jic23@cam.ac.uk> a =C3=A9crit :
>=20
>>>  * Should we have some low-level ADC driver in arch/arm/mach-at91/ =
that
>>>    allows to request/release/access the ADC channels, this driver
>>>    providing an internal kernel API used by the IIO ADC driver and =
the
>>>    touchscreen driver ?
>> That's definitely not going to go down well against moves to move ev=
erything
>> that looks like a driver out of the arch directories. An equivalent =
somewhere
>> else might work though.
>=20
> Yes, of course if this needs to be implemented, it should be in some
> other location than arch/arm, but not sure where (which is basically
> the discussion that was started some time ago).
>=20
>> Agreed.  This is currently up in the air. The current state of those=
 IIO
>> hooks is that they do pull only.  Push based capture is tricky as fo=
r IIO
>> we want to control the triggering of the push at a far finer scale t=
han
>> makes sense for input. I'm not yet clear how these two will play tog=
ether.
>=20
> My IIO knowledge is still too limited to understand what's the proble=
m
> with exposing an API for push-based capture.
I'll give a quick summary:

Push in IIO is done from a trigger (imagine an oscilloscope).  Those tr=
iggers
may be supplied by a dataready signal or from somewhere entirely differ=
ent.
Also multiple devices can be triggered by the same signal.  Thus the da=
taready
from one chip can trigger a whole load of others.

Right now filtering functions prevent some devices from using anything =
other than
their own trigger.  Setting defaults is also possible. If anything is t=
hen registered
to receive the data the trigger cannot be changed anyway so that will w=
ork here.

The other bit that makes it complex is the data flow.
This is done in the form of scans of a set of channels. The description=
 of these
are more or less available to the core.  Note the scan you get may well=
 have
more channels in it than you explicitly requested.

These scans are then pushed into one of a set of different buffers.  No=
te
All of the scan is currently pushed.  That makes sense if you only have=
 one
user of the data.  Right now the pushing is done by the individual driv=
ers
but this could pass through the core.

So things that stand in the way of more general use:

1) Userspace controlled triggers (apply to whole ADC) - can lock these =
down if
say a touchscreen driver is using the device.
2) Single output stream of data.
3) Note there is deliberately no metadata in the stream. It is all out =
of band.

Push to one driver is easy.  Anything else needs a demux that is aware =
of the
stream contents.  This bit doesn't exist and looks non trivial.  The re=
al
trick is going to be keeping it light and fast (or entirely out of the
way when not needed.)

At some point I'll have a play with rerouting the data so such a demux
can sit in the current flow (can use it to kill off unwanted channels).

>=20
>> If we sit something underneath the IIO and input drivers (or use the=
 lower
>> portions of IIO to do this) then the intent would be to have a fully=
 generic
>> input touchscreen driver on top.  I'm not sure that's possible.
>=20
> I am not sure it's possible to make the touchscreen driver generic. O=
n
> the G45, the ADC IP has some generic ADC registers, but also some
> touchscreen-specific registers. So the touchscreen driver probably
> cannot be completely generic and some cooperation between the AT91 AD=
C
> driver and the AT91 touchscreen driver might be needed. I'd have to
> look into more details on how the AT91 touchscreen thing works to
> provide some more details here.
>=20
>> For example are the switches on the G45's adc (from datasheet) somet=
hing that
>> all/many similar touch screen controllers have?
>=20
> I have no idea.
>=20
> However, I have also seen a platform (SuperH 2A) where ADC channels a=
re
> used for keypad handling. 4 ADCs channels, each connected to 4 keys,
> each having a different resistor. Depending on the voltage measured a=
t
> the ADC, you're capable of knowing which key of the 4x4 keypad is
> pressed. This is a different situation where the ADC values need to b=
e
> used by another in-kernel driver.
That one is much easier to handle and indeed not that uncommon a hack.
It really is just using the ADCs to get a value.  Hence with suitable
descriptive map it's easy to write a generic driver for it.
Even easier if it's simply polled ;)
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Thomas


  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-20  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-19 16:18 [PATCH] AT91: Add a driver for the ADC Maxime Ripard
2011-10-19 16:18 ` [PATCH 1/3] ARM: AT91: Add platform data for the ADCs Maxime Ripard
2011-10-19 16:18 ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM: AT91: IIO: Add AT91 ADC driver Maxime Ripard
2011-10-19 16:42   ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-10-19 18:23     ` Maxime Ripard
2011-10-20  7:05       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2011-10-20  8:33         ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-10-20  8:49           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2011-10-20  9:19             ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2011-10-20  9:52           ` Mark Brown
2011-10-20  7:09   ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2011-10-21 17:54     ` Maxime Ripard
2011-10-21 17:55       ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2011-10-23  9:08   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-10-24  8:21     ` Maxime Ripard
2011-10-19 16:18 ` [PATCH 3/3] ARM: AT91: Add the ADC to the sam9g20ek board Maxime Ripard
2011-10-20  6:28   ` Alexander Stein
2011-10-21 17:47     ` Maxime Ripard
2011-10-20  7:14   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2011-11-03 10:11 ` [PATCHv2] AT91: Add a driver for the ADC Maxime Ripard
2011-11-03 10:11   ` [PATCH 1/3] ARM: AT91: Add platform data for the ADCs Maxime Ripard
2011-11-03 11:27     ` Linus Walleij
2011-11-03 16:27       ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found]         ` <CACRpkdZsNJwgC-7hp2zHNAcZVG-x8JN1CzV5KbYSiokD-9FUBw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-11-03 18:05           ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-11-04 10:27     ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-11-04 10:36       ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-11-04 10:34     ` Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]       ` <4EB4031A.4080806@free-electrons.com>
2011-11-04 16:28         ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-11-03 10:11   ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM: AT91: IIO: Add AT91 ADC driver Maxime Ripard
2011-11-04 10:27     ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-11-03 10:11   ` [PATCH 3/3] ARM: AT91: Add the ADC to the sam9g20ek board Maxime Ripard
2011-11-04 10:33     ` Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]       ` <4EB3CB8C.8080008@free-electrons.com>
2011-11-04 16:32         ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-11-07 16:08 ` [PATCHv3] AT91: Add a driver for the ADC Maxime Ripard
2011-11-07 16:08   ` [PATCH 1/3] ARM: AT91: Add platform data for the ADCs Maxime Ripard
2011-11-07 16:27     ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-11-08 13:19     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2011-11-07 16:08   ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM: AT91: IIO: Add AT91 ADC driver Maxime Ripard
2011-11-08 13:30     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2011-11-07 16:08   ` [PATCH 3/3] ARM: AT91: Add the ADC to the sam9g20ek board Maxime Ripard
2011-11-09 10:19 ` [PATCHv4] AT91: Add a driver for the ADC Maxime Ripard
2011-11-09 10:19   ` [PATCH 1/3] ARM: AT91: Add platform data for the ADCs Maxime Ripard
2011-11-09 10:19   ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM: AT91: IIO: Add AT91 ADC driver Maxime Ripard
2011-11-10 17:35     ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-11-11 12:34       ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-11-14  9:59         ` Maxime Ripard
2011-11-14  9:06       ` Maxime Ripard
2011-11-09 10:19   ` [PATCH 3/3] ARM: AT91: Add the ADC to the sam9g20ek board Maxime Ripard
2011-11-10 17:37     ` Jonathan Cameron
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-11-14 10:06 [PATCHv5] AT91: Add a driver for the ADC Maxime Ripard
2011-11-14 10:06 ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM: AT91: IIO: Add AT91 ADC driver Maxime Ripard
2011-11-14 11:30   ` Nicolas Ferre
2011-11-14 11:37   ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-14 14:23     ` Maxime Ripard
2011-11-14 17:30 [PATCH v6] AT91: Add a driver for the ADC Maxime Ripard
2011-11-14 17:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM: AT91: IIO: Add AT91 ADC driver Maxime Ripard
2011-11-14 21:32   ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-11-15 10:23     ` Maxime Ripard
2011-11-15 10:54 [PATCH v7] AT91: Add a driver for the ADC Maxime Ripard
2011-11-15 10:54 ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM: AT91: IIO: Add AT91 ADC driver Maxime Ripard
2011-11-16 15:39   ` Maxime Ripard
2011-11-18 10:12 [PATCH v8] AT91: Add a driver for the ADC Maxime Ripard
2011-11-18 10:12 ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM: AT91: IIO: Add AT91 ADC driver Maxime Ripard
2011-11-24 11:27 [PATCH v9] AT91: Add a driver for the ADC Maxime Ripard
2011-11-24 11:27 ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM: AT91: IIO: Add AT91 ADC driver Maxime Ripard
2011-11-24 14:28   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-11-30  9:14 [PATCH v11] AT91: Add a driver for the ADC Maxime Ripard
2011-11-30  9:15 ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM: AT91: IIO: Add AT91 ADC driver Maxime Ripard
2011-11-30 17:40   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-02 13:17 [PATCH v12] AT91: Add a driver for the ADC Maxime Ripard
2011-12-02 13:17 ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM: AT91: IIO: Add AT91 ADC driver Maxime Ripard
2012-01-16 21:36 [PATCH RESEND v13] AT91: Add a driver for the ADC Maxime Ripard
2012-01-16 21:36 ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM: AT91: IIO: Add AT91 ADC driver Maxime Ripard
2012-01-17 17:35   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-01-17 19:08     ` Maxime Ripard
2012-01-18 10:27   ` Nicolas Ferre

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