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From: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
To: Mike Mestnik <cheako@mikemestnik.net>,
	Bastien Nocera <hadess@hadess.net>
Cc: Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-iio <linux-iio@vger.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Baluta <daniel.baluta@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Asus T300CHI.
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 20:46:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56005E7A.9060304@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150921142604.GA12821@localhost>

On 21/09/15 15:26, Mike Mestnik wrote:
> On Sep 20, 2015 5:42 PM, "Bastien Nocera" <hadess@hadess.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 2015-09-20 at 20:08 +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>>> On 19/09/15 20:03, Mike Mestnik wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Daniel Baluta <
>>>> daniel.baluta@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Mike Mestnik <
>>>>> cheako@mikemestnik.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>   I'm looking to know the result of adding ACPI support for a
>>>>>> new
>>>>>> tablet, the existing support shouldn't work because of a
>>>>>> misplaced
>>>>>> __init that causes the function to be removed prior to being
>>>>>> called.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you sure about this? It seems that the existing support
>>>>> doesn't work
>>>>> because you have different product ids.
>>>>>
>>>> The driver worked much better prior to me adding the product ids.
>>>>  The
>>>> sensors were exposed to sysfs and all the data they collected
>>>> seemed
>>>> correct to me.  The big issue is that there is no software, even
>>>> iio-sensor-proxy didn't know how to access the data.
>>> Cc'd Bastien Nocera.
>>
>> iio-sensor-proxy not finding the sensor, and with it working otherwise,
>> would be an iio-sensor-proxy bug. I have one of those already for the
>> accelerometer in the WinBook TW100 that I haven't had time to root down
>> though. See:
>> https://github.com/hadess/iio-sensor-proxy/issues/39
>>
>> The main problem being that sensor types are already hard to detect,
>> and the iio subsystem doesn't make it any easier to check whether
>> there's buffered output available, or the application needs to poll.
I dispute this one.  It's not exactly hard to check for the buffer
directory in sysfs and to evaluate if there is a trigger provided by
the device (again a simple directory presence check).
It gets harder if there is more than one trigger provided, but inherently
there isn't much we can do to suggest the best one.  If there are two
then there are two usecases that demand different choices.

>>
>> If anyone wants to fix that in the kernel, that would certainly make my
>> life easier.
>>
> I only kind of understand the reasoning for iio, but for the case of
> devices used for instructing application behaviour I can't help but think
> this would be better served using/extending input events.
Indeed, the IIO side of things is about providing generic support
for lots of use cases whereas in your case you are looking at something
which is naturally quite specific. 

> 
> That would seam to cover the above issues, in exchange for having to add
> support for a few new tricks.
> 
> 1. An axis where max and min are actually one 'step' apart.
> 2. Double axis for xyz, 6 instead of 3.  Perhaps this can be handled with
> extra event nodes, but then there may be sync issues.
> 3. Integrating iio data into input events.  I don't even understand what
> this would mean.

This last one exists, but is out of tree at the moment waiting for a better
way to instantiate iio-input bridge instances.
Historically we got a lot of grief over the iio-hwmon bridge device tree
bindings - they seemed fine at the time when none of us knew much about
device tree ;)
The plan for bridging to input is to do it via configfs once Daniel Baluta's
had a chance to revise his patches to add support for configfs to IIO. 
We'll probably also support this approach for the hwmon bridge as well
and deprecate the current approach. The bridge is imaginatively called iio-input
if you want to google it (quite a few years old as this binding issue wasn't
an easy one to solve and when written it was more of a hyperthetical use case
than one anyone was actually using).

Jonathan
> 
>> Cheers
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-21 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-17 21:07 [PATCH] Asus T300CHI Mike Mestnik
2015-09-19 18:31 ` Mike Mestnik
2015-09-19 18:48 ` Daniel Baluta
2015-09-19 19:03   ` Mike Mestnik
2015-09-20 19:08     ` Jonathan Cameron
2015-09-20 22:42       ` Bastien Nocera
2015-09-20 22:55         ` Mike Mestnik
2015-09-21 14:26         ` Mike Mestnik
2015-09-21 19:46           ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2015-09-24 15:57             ` Mike Mestnik
2015-09-25 14:19               ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2015-09-25 16:40                 ` Mike Mestnik
2015-09-21 19:47         ` Jonathan Cameron

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