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From: Matti Vaittinen <mazziesaccount@gmail.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Matti Vaittinen" <matti.vaittinen@fi.rohmeurope.com>,
	"Jonathan Cameron" <jic23@kernel.org>,
	"Lars-Peter Clausen" <lars@metafoo.de>,
	"Nuno Sa" <nuno.sa@analog.com>,
	"David Lechner" <dlechner@baylibre.com>,
	"Javier Carrasco" <javier.carrasco.cruz@gmail.com>,
	"Olivier Moysan" <olivier.moysan@foss.st.com>,
	"Guillaume Stols" <gstols@baylibre.com>,
	"Dumitru Ceclan" <mitrutzceclan@gmail.com>,
	"Trevor Gamblin" <tgamblin@baylibre.com>,
	"Matteo Martelli" <matteomartelli3@gmail.com>,
	"Alisa-Dariana Roman" <alisadariana@gmail.com>,
	"João Paulo Gonçalves" <joao.goncalves@toradex.com>,
	"AngeloGioacchino Del Regno"
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 06/10] iio: adc: Support ROHM BD79124 ADC
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 10:33:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cd3d2404-2fbd-4775-a970-b43ba8eacc27@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z9fV_lNgLaXXG2-j@smile.fi.intel.com>

On 17/03/2025 09:57, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 09:07:30AM +0200, Matti Vaittinen wrote:
>> On 14/03/2025 16:37, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 11:22:37AM +0200, Matti Vaittinen wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
>>> Okay, it seems I misinterpreted the values you have in regmap configuration,
>>> I was under the impression that regmap is 16-bit data, but it is about address.
>>>
>>> So, we need to know why the heck HW has sparse registers
>>
>> We don't know. And we really don't even need to know it. We can just use
>> this device knowing there are some.
> 
> Don't you have a channel to ask HW engineers about this?

Let's just say that ROHM is, while not huge, still rather large company. 
I'm located far away from the HQ, I speak different language and I am 
from very different cultural background. So, while there are some 
channels, it is not always easy, clever of possible to ask (not to 
mention getting answers to) "why this way" - questions :)

>>> for what is supposed
>>> to be sequential. This needs a good comment.
>>
>> I think it is quite usual that devices contain undocumented registers. Not
>> sure having a comment that this device also has some, adds much of value? I
>> suppose I can add a comment that we can't use bulk_write because registers
>> aren't in subsequent addresses - but having just removed bunch of
>> unnecessary comments from the code (as requested), I'm not sure adding this
>> one really improves situation... When one sees separate reads/writes for
>> data spread to multiple registers, he is likely to assume addresses aren't
>> subsequent.
> 
>  From HW design perspective it's silly to sparse hi and lo part of
> the semantically same entity. So, either the (undocumented) register
> is also part of the soup, or the registers have different semantics.

Or, the designer has not thought how software would be doing the reads. 
Or, this design has originated from a design done for a very specific 
purpose, which, we don't know of.

> This what needs to be commented in my opinion.

Yours,
	-- Matti


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-17  8:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-13  7:16 [PATCH v7 00/10] Support ROHM BD79124 ADC Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-13  7:17 ` [PATCH v7 01/10] dt-bindings: ROHM BD79124 ADC/GPO Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-13  7:18 ` [PATCH v7 02/10] property: Add functions to iterate named child Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-13 12:15   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-16 21:45   ` Marcelo Schmitt
2025-03-13  7:18 ` [PATCH v7 03/10] iio: adc: add helpers for parsing ADC nodes Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-13 12:31   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-13 13:17     ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-13 13:29       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-16  9:38   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-17  8:22     ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-13  7:18 ` [PATCH v7 04/10] iio: adc: rzg2l_adc: Use adc-helpers Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-13  7:18 ` [PATCH v7 05/10] iio: adc: sun20i-gpadc: " Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-13 12:34   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-16  9:41     ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-17  7:11       ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-17  7:51         ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-17  8:42           ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-17  9:27             ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-17 10:45               ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-13  7:19 ` [PATCH v7 06/10] iio: adc: Support ROHM BD79124 ADC Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-13 13:19   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-14  7:31     ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-14  8:52       ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-14 14:33       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-16  9:52         ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-16 10:01           ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-17  6:52           ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-17 10:52             ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-14  9:22     ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-14 14:37       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-17  7:07         ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-17  7:57           ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-17  8:33             ` Matti Vaittinen [this message]
2025-03-16 11:02   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-17  7:34     ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-17 11:24     ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-30 16:04       ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-31  7:37         ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-31  7:51           ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-13  7:19 ` [PATCH v7 07/10] MAINTAINERS: Add IIO ADC helpers Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-13  7:19 ` [PATCH v7 08/10] MAINTAINERS: Add ROHM BD79124 ADC/GPO Matti Vaittinen

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