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From: "Nuno Sá" <noname.nuno@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
Cc: Tomas Melin <tomas.melin@vaisala.com>,
	Michael Hennerich	 <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
	Nuno Sa <nuno.sa@analog.com>,
	Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
	David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andy@kernel.org>,
		linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] iio: adc: ad9467: make iio backend optional
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2026 13:21:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d36d38b2ae691371c653927fcba310bc525e0aac.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260111114109.28b01266@jic23-huawei>

On Sun, 2026-01-11 at 11:41 +0000, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Jan 2026 14:57:02 +0000
> Nuno Sá <noname.nuno@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2026-01-05 at 13:06 +0200, Tomas Melin wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On 21/12/2025 22:00, Jonathan Cameron wrote:  
> > > > On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 11:40:06 +0000
> > > > Tomas Melin <tomas.melin@vaisala.com> wrote:
> > > >   
> > > > > Not all users can or want to use the device with an iio-backend.
> > > > > For these users, let the driver work in standalone mode, not coupled
> > > > > to the backend or the services it provides.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Tomas Melin <tomas.melin@vaisala.com>  
> > > > Hi Tomas,
> > > >   
> > > > >  static int ad9467_probe(struct spi_device *spi)
> > > > > @@ -1352,21 +1361,25 @@ static int ad9467_probe(struct spi_device *spi)
> > > > >  	indio_dev->channels = st->info->channels;
> > > > >  	indio_dev->num_channels = st->info->num_channels;
> > > > >  
> > > > > +	/* Using a backend is optional */  
> > > > 
> > > > I'll largely defer to Nuno on the backend aspects but I would like a
> > > > lot more than a statement that it is optional in this comment.
> > > > At least something about where the data goes and what a real system
> > > > that didn't provide a backend would look like etc.  
> > > 
> > > Having the backend as optional is about flexibility to incorporate these
> > > devices as fits best with the system. The current backend approach is
> > > pretty much dictated with how the ADI default backend is implemented.
> > > These devices are fully configurable via SPI interface so the backend
> > > doesn't necessarily need to be anything fancy or even configurable.
> > > 
> > > So there is atleast two use cases that promote the optional iio-backend
> > > approach
> > >  - simple backend that is not configurable, no need for a dedicated
> > > driver. The backend (FPGA) sits and waits for data and handles it when
> > > it arrives  
> > 
> > Agree on the above. Ideally we could have some dummy backend for the above but
> > it is not really easy/maintainable to have it.
> 
> When we say the backend needs no driver, where does the data end up?
> Is the idea that it goes into some processing pipeline and sent to
> some external path that we have no visibility of? i.e. We configure the
> data capture in Linux but never see the data?

Yes, that's also my assumption about Tomas's usecase.

- Nuno Sá

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-12 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-16 11:40 [PATCH 0/2] iio: adc: ad9467: Enable operation without iio-backend Tomas Melin
2025-12-16 11:40 ` [PATCH 1/2] iio: adc: ad9467: include two's complement in default mode Tomas Melin
2025-12-18 13:43   ` Nuno Sá
2025-12-20  3:28   ` kernel test robot
2025-12-20  5:13   ` kernel test robot
2025-12-21 19:54   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-12-16 11:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] iio: adc: ad9467: make iio backend optional Tomas Melin
2025-12-16 12:56   ` Nuno Sá
2025-12-16 15:39     ` Tomas Melin
2025-12-16 21:27       ` David Lechner
2025-12-17  5:38         ` Tomas Melin
2025-12-17  9:26       ` Nuno Sá
2025-12-17 10:39         ` Tomas Melin
2025-12-17 11:44         ` Tomas Melin
2025-12-18 13:41           ` Nuno Sá
2025-12-19 11:25             ` Tomas Melin
2025-12-18 13:49   ` Nuno Sá
2025-12-19 11:16     ` Tomas Melin
2025-12-19 14:46       ` Nuno Sá
2025-12-21 20:00   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-05 11:06     ` Tomas Melin
2026-01-05 14:57       ` Nuno Sá
2026-01-11 11:41         ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-12 13:21           ` Nuno Sá [this message]
2026-01-13  7:47             ` Tomas Melin
2026-01-13 10:00               ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-13 10:52               ` Nuno Sá
2026-01-13 11:49                 ` Tomas Melin
2026-01-13 12:44                   ` Nuno Sá

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