From: Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>
To: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
Cc: awalls@radix.net, dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com, j@jannau.net,
jarod@redhat.com, jarod@wilsonet.com, khc@pm.waw.pl,
linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, lirc-list@lists.sourceforge.net,
mchehab@redhat.com, superm1@ubuntu.com,
Christoph Bartelmus <lirc@bartelmus.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2] Another approach to IR
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:47:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1259682428.18599.10.camel@maxim-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e4733910912010708u1064e2c6mbc08a01293c3e7fd@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 10:08 -0500, Jon Smirl wrote:
> While reading all of these IR threads another way of handling IR
> occurred to me that pretty much eliminates the need for LIRC and
> configuration files in default cases. The best way to make everything
> "just work" is to eliminate it.
>
> The first observation is that the IR profile of various devices are
> well known. Most devices profiles are in the published One-for-All
> database. These device profiles consist of vendor/device/command
> triplets. There is one triplet for each command like play, pause, 1,
> 2, 3, power, etc.
>
> The second observation is that universal remotes know how to generate
> commands for all of the common devices.
>
> Let's define evdev messages for IR than contain vendor/device/command
> triplets. I already posted code for doing that in my original patch
> set. These messages are generated from in-kernel code.
>
> Now add a small amount of code to MythTV, etc to act on these evdev
> messages. Default MythTV, etc to respond to the IR commands for a
> common DVR device. Program your universal remote to send the commands
> for this device. You're done. Everything will "just work" - no LIRC,
> no irrecord, no config files, no command mapping, etc.
You are making one big wrong assumption that everyone that has a remote
uses mythtv, and only it.
Many users including me, use the remote just like a keyboard, or even
like a mouse.
>
> Of course there are details involved in making this work. MythTV will
> have to have a config option to allow it to emulate several different
> DVR devices so that you can pick one that you don't own. It should
> also have choices for emulating the common devices defined for the
> remotes included with various Linux video board like the Hauppauge
> remote.
>
> For apps that haven't been modified you will have to run a daemon
> which will capture vendor/device/command evdev events and convert them
> into keystroke commands than work the menus. You'll need a config file
> for this and have to write scripts. Instead I'd just go modify the app
> the respond to the IR events, it is easy to do.
>
> Long run, we define a MythTV IR profile, mplayer profile, etc and get
> these into the IR database for universal remotes. Now MythTV can stop
> emulating another vendor's device.
>
> For the default MythTV case no external support will need to be
> installed if the protocol decode engines are in the kernel. The raw
> data will come in, run through the engines, and pop out as evdev
> messages with a vendor/device/command triplet. Devices that decode in
> hardware will just send vendor/device/command triplets.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-01 15:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-01 15:08 [RFC v2] Another approach to IR Jon Smirl
2009-12-01 15:47 ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
2009-12-01 16:16 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-01 17:03 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-01 17:09 ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-12-01 17:29 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-01 17:54 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-01 19:00 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-01 19:27 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-01 20:11 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-01 21:05 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-02 9:38 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-02 12:44 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-02 17:10 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-02 17:30 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-02 18:23 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-02 18:57 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-02 20:54 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-02 19:22 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-12-02 19:56 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-02 20:04 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-12-02 20:14 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-02 20:23 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-02 20:53 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-02 21:13 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-03 16:03 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-12-03 16:33 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-03 16:50 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-03 17:19 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-03 17:31 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-04 16:11 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-12-02 20:42 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-12-02 20:48 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-02 20:57 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-12-02 21:12 ` Trent Piepho
2009-12-02 21:28 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-12-02 21:40 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-03 18:06 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-12-03 1:19 ` Andy Walls
2009-12-03 2:27 ` hermann pitton
2009-12-03 0:20 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-03 2:22 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-03 5:08 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-03 11:09 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-03 18:18 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-12-03 20:54 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-03 2:48 ` Trent Piepho
2009-12-03 4:13 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-12-03 5:18 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-03 11:20 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-03 19:48 ` alhaz
2009-12-02 19:33 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-02 19:50 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-02 19:58 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-02 20:47 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-02 19:55 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-12-03 1:02 ` Andy Walls
2009-12-03 10:00 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-03 12:02 ` Andy Walls
2009-12-03 11:09 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-02 20:01 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-02 15:37 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-02 17:00 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-02 11:26 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-02 12:45 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-01 17:35 ` Patrick Boettcher
2009-12-01 17:41 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-01 18:19 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-01 17:37 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-12-03 19:47 Guus Sliepen
2009-12-03 21:53 ` Jarod Wilson
2009-12-05 11:23 ` Guus Sliepen
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