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From: Bastien Nocera <hadess@hadess.net>
To: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>,
	Chuck Ebbert <cebbert.lkml@gmail.com>,
	Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>,
	Ivaylo Dimitrov <ivo.g.dimitrov.75@gmail.com>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] input: Add disable sysfs entry for every input device
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2017 12:21:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1483442481.2420.12.camel@hadess.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201701021809.58943@pali>

On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 18:09 +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Monday 02 January 2017 16:27:05 Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > On Sun, 2016-12-25 at 11:04 +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > This patch allows user to disable events from any input device so
> > > events
> > > would not be delivered to userspace.
> > > 
> > > Currently there is no way to disable particular input device by
> > > kernel.
> > > User for different reasons would need it for integrated PS/2
> > > keyboard or
> > > touchpad in notebook or touchscreen on mobile device to prevent
> > > sending
> > > events. E.g. mobile phone in pocket or broken integrated PS/2
> > > keyboard.
> > > 
> > > This is just a RFC patch, not tested yet. Original post about
> > > motivation
> > > about this patch is there: https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/11/29/92
> > 
> > Having implemented something of that ilk in user-space (we
> > automatically disable touch devices when the associated screen is
> > turned off/suspended), I think this might need more thought.
> 
> How to implement such thing in userspace? I think you cannot do that 
> without rewriting every one userspace application which uses input.
> 
> > What happens when a device is opened and the device disabled
> through
> > sysfs, are the users revoked?
> 
> Applications will not receive events. Same as if input device does
> not 
> generates events.
> 
> > Does this put the device in suspend in the same way that closing
> the
> > device's last user does?
> 
> Current code not (this is just RFC prototype), but it should be
> possible 
> to implement.
> 
> > Is this not better implemented in user-space at the session level,
> > where it knows about which output corresponds to which input
> device?
> 
> How to do that without rewriting existing applications?
> 
> > Is this useful enough to disable misbehaving devices on hardware,
> so
> > that the device is not effective on boot?  
> 
> In case integrated device is absolutely unusable and generates
> always 
> random events, it does not solve problem at boot time.
> 
> But more real case is laptop with closed LID press buttons and here
> it 
> is useful.

There's usually a display manager in between the application and the
input device. Whether it's X.org, or a Wayland compositor. Even David's
 https://github.com/dvdhrm/kmscon could help for console applications.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-03 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-25 10:04 [RFC PATCH] input: Add disable sysfs entry for every input device Pali Rohár
2016-12-30 16:13 ` [RFC] " Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-02 15:27 ` [RFC PATCH] " Bastien Nocera
2017-01-02 17:09   ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-03 11:21     ` Bastien Nocera [this message]
2017-01-04  7:43       ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2017-01-04 14:37         ` Bastien Nocera
2017-01-05 12:48           ` Pali Rohár
2018-01-09  1:51             ` Peter Hutterer
2018-01-02 21:54           ` Pali Rohár
2018-01-03  1:47             ` Bastien Nocera
2018-01-03  9:31               ` Pali Rohár
2018-01-09  2:04                 ` Peter Hutterer
2018-02-17 21:19                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-01-17 11:07       ` Pavel Machek
2018-01-03  1:38         ` Bastien Nocera
2018-01-02 21:48       ` Pali Rohár
2018-01-03  1:43         ` Bastien Nocera
2017-01-02 16:44 ` David Herrmann
2017-01-02 17:31   ` Pali Rohár

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