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From: Richard Hughes <hughsient@gmail.com>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>
Cc: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
	linux-acpi <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@redhat.com>,
	linux-input <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matthias Clasen <mclasen@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: suspend / hibernate nomenclature
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 08:45:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15e53e180903080045x5874f05cv5ea836d73e3855b1@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090307203946.GA9942@srcf.ucam.org>

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com> wrote:
> We don't have to at all - as far as I've been able to tell, the kernel
> is utterly consistent in its current usage. The only drivers that emit
> KEY_SLEEP are either embedded-specific (where it's clearly suspend to
> RAM and not hibernate), the ACPI driver (where usage in other operating
> systems is consistent with it being suspent to RAM) and the panasonic
> and thinkpad drivers which use it consistently. If there's any
> confusion, it's over the fact that KEY_SUSPEND is is used for suspend to
> RAM in a (smaller) number of places.

The fact that we're mapping x->y and y->x is the reason people keep
getting it wrong.

> I'd suggest reverting these current patches and doing something like the
> following and then changing any drivers where it's worth clarifying
> things. This has exactly the same effect with the advantage that no
> userspace needs to be changed.

So how do we specify a sleep button where policy is to be decided by
userspace? For instance, the sleep button on a remote control? Do we
hardcode policy in the kernel?

> -#define KEY_SLEEP              142     /* SC System Sleep */
> +#define KEY_SUSPEND_TO_RAM     142     /* SC System Sleep */

I deliberately avoided using the terms DISK and RAM in the key defines
used in my patch.

> +/* Deprecated - use KEY_SUSPEND_TO_RAM and KEY_HIBERNATE instead */
> +#define KEY_SLEEP              KEY_SUSPEND_TO_RAM
> +#define KEY_SUSPEND            KEY_HIBERNATE

Yet more confusion. Can't we sort this mess out once and for all? If
you're that bothered about userspace using the bodged mappings, I
would suggest changing my patch so that KEY_SLEEP is 247,
KEY_HIBERNATE is 205 and KEY_SUSPEND is 142.

Richard.
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-08  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-02 11:13 suspend / hibernate nomenclature Richard Hughes
2009-03-02 11:24 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-03-02 12:11   ` Richard Hughes
2009-03-03 17:20     ` [patch] add KEY_HIBERNATE and clarify the uses of KEY_SUSPEND and KEY_SLEEP Richard Hughes
2009-03-03 19:53       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-04  8:42         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-03-04 10:54   ` [PATCH] thinkpad-acpi: use correct key names for sleep states in driver Richard Hughes
2009-03-04 10:58     ` [PATCH] panasonic-laptop: " Richard Hughes
2009-03-04 23:58       ` Harald Welte
2009-03-05  9:09         ` Richard Hughes
2009-03-04 11:09     ` [PATCH] DVB-USB: correct the comment about KEY_SLEEP Richard Hughes
2009-03-10 10:31       ` Antti Palosaari
2009-03-04 12:04     ` [PATCH] thinkpad-acpi: use correct key names for sleep states in driver Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-08-18 20:02       ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2009-08-18 20:10         ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-18 20:27           ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2009-08-18 20:45             ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-22 18:02               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-08-19  9:18             ` Ali Abdallah
2009-08-26 11:36           ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2009-08-26 13:43             ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-26 17:52               ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2009-08-26 22:51                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-08-27  6:18                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-08-28  0:34                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-03-07  8:37 ` suspend / hibernate nomenclature Andrey Borzenkov
2009-03-07 15:48 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-07 16:41   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-03-07 16:48     ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-07 17:17       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-03-07 20:25       ` Richard Hughes
2009-03-07 20:39         ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-08  8:45           ` Richard Hughes [this message]
2009-03-08 14:41             ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-08 20:56               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-08 23:07                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-03-08 23:19                   ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-09 13:52                     ` Ville Syrjälä
2009-03-09 14:00                       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-09 15:10                         ` Ville Syrjälä

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