From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
ibm-acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Richard Hughes <hughsient@gmail.com>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: add thinkpad keys to input.h
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 15:04:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070530140450.GA29514@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d120d5000705300657s3a50a93el6c0771288ac80ebb@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 09:57:11AM -0400, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> I really don't like KEY_FN_F1..KEY_FN_BACKSPACE either. What are they
> supposed to do? Just being an unique value to be mapped onto something
> useful? But why not use that useful keycode to begin with?
We've already got KEY_PROG* - is this not the sort of situation they're
for? (ie, keys that aren't mapped to a specific purpose but would be
potentially useful to userspace at the per-user level)
> I'd rather leave the keys unmapped and rely on initsripts (possibly
> with help from distributions vendors) to load proper keymap then add
> something that must be retranslated over and over again.
Changing the keymap is a privileged operation, so sending /some/ sort of
keycode by default would probably be good.
> Well, what kind of functions you would like them to have? You, as a
> maintainer, can chose defaults. Since you (well, not you, the driver)
> provide a way for a user to adjust keymap there should be no problem
> even if someone does not like the values you chose. Having sensible
> defaults is a good thing, otherwise many people will not even know
> that they have these "separate" keys.
Some of the Thinkpad keys send events even without there being any
label, so I don't think there's a sane default other than leaving it up
to the user. On the other hand, I'm not especially keen on sending
literals like "FN_BACKSPACE" - it's hugely special-cased.
--
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org
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[not found] ` <11802006652128-git-send-email-hmh@hmh.eng.br>
[not found] ` <11802006652058-git-send-email-hmh@hmh.eng.br>
2007-05-26 17:31 ` [PATCH] ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: add thinkpad keys to input.h Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-27 3:40 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-05-27 12:15 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-27 18:10 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070527121513.GC19562-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-29 3:16 ` Dmitry Torokhov
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2007-05-29 13:05 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-30 13:57 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-05-30 14:04 ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2007-05-30 14:18 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-05-30 14:25 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-30 14:31 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-05-30 14:42 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-30 15:07 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-30 15:24 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-30 16:04 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-05-30 17:24 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-30 20:25 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-05-30 23:01 ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Matthew Garrett
2007-05-31 0:53 ` Making KEY_UNKNOWN really useful to userland Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-31 4:33 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-05-31 22:28 ` [PATCH] Input: document the proper usage of EV_KEY and KEY_UNKNOWN Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-31 23:33 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-06-01 0:13 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-06-01 0:24 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-06-01 1:29 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-06-01 1:44 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-06-01 2:11 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-06-01 3:33 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-06-01 4:08 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-06-01 4:37 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-06-01 13:13 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-06-01 14:04 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-06-01 14:19 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-06-01 15:06 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-06-01 15:21 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-06-01 14:51 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-06-01 14:19 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-06-20 10:21 ` Helge Hafting
2007-06-06 16:55 ` [PATCH] Input: document the proper usage of EV_KEY and KEY_UNKNOWN (v2) Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-06-29 5:04 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-06-30 18:20 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070531005305.GC6883-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-31 10:37 ` Making KEY_UNKNOWN really useful to userland Richard Hughes
2007-05-31 12:48 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-31 14:37 ` Dmitry Torokhov
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