From: Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@computergmbh.de>,
linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
dtor@mail.ru
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:36:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070901193652.GD12644@implementation> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070901181845.GA4839@ucw.cz>
Pavel Machek, le Sat 01 Sep 2007 18:18:45 +0000, a écrit :
> > > > Very early is not so early, and loading initrd itself may actually fail.
> > > > The kernel may indeed hang, but there are more chances to get some
> > > > messages before the hang. Don't _you_ have a VGA screen for getting
> > > > earliest failure messages from the kernel?
> > >
> > > No. I'm using framebuffer, that's initialized quite late in boot
> > > process. Plus many users just use bootsplash. I do use vga mode for
> > > heavy debugging, but that's quite unusual.
> >
> > But that's what some people do for their work, so they need it.
>
> How many such users are out there?
You know that it's a question that just can't be answered. There are
such people, and their employment depend on this.
> > > So... you actually have speech-enabled grub/lilo/something?
> >
> > That's in project too (and there's no reason it shouldn't be done).
>
> I'd say kernel debugging is hard without accessible bootloader
A bootloader with only two entries is not so difficult to use blindly.
Samuel
prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-01 19:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-21 0:57 [PATCH] Console keyboard events and accessibility Samuel Thibault
2007-08-21 20:02 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-21 20:22 ` Samuel Thibault
2007-08-25 1:07 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-27 14:59 ` Samuel Thibault
2007-08-21 20:42 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-21 20:49 ` Samuel Thibault
2007-07-12 19:19 ` Pavel Machek
2007-09-01 12:26 ` Samuel Thibault
2007-09-01 12:32 ` Pavel Machek
2007-09-01 12:51 ` Samuel Thibault
2007-09-01 17:23 ` Pavel Machek
2007-09-01 17:33 ` Samuel Thibault
2007-09-01 18:18 ` Pavel Machek
2007-09-01 19:36 ` Samuel Thibault [this message]
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