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From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	protasnb@gmail.com, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	bugme-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org,
	linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz
Subject: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:18:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071113221801.GF1356@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071113125222.9eb53ac8.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:52:22PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:32:19 +0000 Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> > There's another issue I want to raise concerning bugzilla.  We have the
> > classic case of "not enough people reading bugzilla bugs" - which is one
> > of the biggest problems with bugzilla.  Virtually no one in the ARM
> > community looks for ARM bugs in bugzilla.
> 
> Nor should they.

So what you're saying is...

> > Let's not forget that it would be a waste of time for people to manually
> > check bugzilla for ARM bugs.  There's soo few people reporting ARM bugs
> > into bugzilla that a weekly manual check by every maintainer would just
> > return the same old boring results for months and months at a time.
> 
> I screen all bugzilla reports.  100% of them.
> 
> - I'll try to establish whether it is a regression
> 
> - I'll solicit any extra information which I believe the reveloper will need
> 
> - I'll ensure that an appropriate developer has seen the report
> 
> And yes, the number of arm-specific reports in there is very small.

that just because you do this everyone in a select clique, who you include
me in, should be doing this as well.

No.  Thank.  You.

> > It would be far more productive if the ARM category was deleted from
> > bugzilla and the few people who use bugzilla reported their bugs on the
> > mailing list.  We've a couple of thousand people on the ARM kernel
> > mailing list at the moment - that's 3 orders of magnitude more of eyes
> > than look at bugzilla.
> 
> Is that linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk?

Yes.

> If so, MANITAINERS claims that it is subscribers-only.  That would cause
> some bug reporters to give up and go away.

Find some other mailing list; I'm not hosting *nor* am I willing to run a
non-subscribers only mailing list.  Period.  Not negotiable, so don't even
try to change my mind.

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:

  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-13 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <32209efe0711122242m3a5f081asf1c11a38b24db10c@mail.gmail.com>
2007-11-13 11:15 ` [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 11:24   ` Jens Axboe
2007-11-13 11:39   ` David Miller
2007-11-13 11:49     ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 11:58       ` David Miller
2007-11-13 12:12         ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 12:32           ` David Miller
2007-11-13 19:02             ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 19:32             ` Russell King
2007-11-13 20:13               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 20:52               ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 22:18                 ` Russell King [this message]
2007-11-13 22:32                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 23:09                     ` Russell King
2007-11-13 23:17                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14  1:55                     ` David Miller
2007-11-14  2:27                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14  3:47                         ` David Miller
2007-11-14  8:30                         ` Russell King
2007-11-14  9:55                       ` Russell King
2007-11-14 10:07                         ` David Miller
2007-11-14 11:46                           ` [alsa-devel] " Rene Herman
2007-11-14 11:56                             ` David Miller
2007-11-14 12:01                               ` David Miller
2007-11-14  8:25                                 ` Moderated list (Was: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Takashi Iwai
2007-11-14 12:21                                   ` Rene Herman
2007-11-14  9:47                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2007-11-14 23:23                                       ` Moderated list David Miller
2007-11-14 12:12                                 ` [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Rene Herman
2007-11-14 12:09                               ` Rene Herman
2007-11-14 19:44                           ` Russell King
2007-11-14  5:56                   ` Sam Ravnborg
     [not found]                   ` <20071114055606.GA5458@uranus.ravnborg.org>
2007-11-14  5:59                     ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-14  6:13                     ` David Miller
     [not found]               ` <20071113201319.GL4250@stusta.de>
2007-11-13 23:29                 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 23:38                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 13:40           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-13 14:08             ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 15:24               ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2007-11-13 15:57                 ` Ray Lee
2007-11-13 17:01                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 17:50                     ` Romano Giannetti
2007-11-13 22:03                       ` Frans Pop
2007-11-13 15:52               ` Benoit Boissinot
2007-11-13 16:49                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-13 17:13                 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-13 17:30                   ` Alan Cox
2007-11-13 17:33                   ` Larry Finger
2007-11-13 18:55                     ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-13 20:07                       ` Larry Finger
2007-11-13 17:56                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 18:57                     ` Gabriel C
2007-11-14  0:41                       ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14  0:39                     ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14  7:27                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-14  7:46                         ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14 13:30                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-14 13:35                             ` Hannes Reinecke
2007-11-14 18:27                           ` Kok, Auke
2007-11-14 23:23                   ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-11-13 16:46               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-13 17:50                 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:12                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 18:18                     ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:36                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 18:47                         ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 19:04                           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 19:12                             ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 19:30                               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 19:46                                 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 20:04                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 19:26                             ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 20:00                               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 20:13                                 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 21:20                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 21:12                                 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-14  0:52                                   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-11-14  1:11                                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-11-14  2:10                                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14  1:10                       ` David Miller
2007-11-13 18:17                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-13 18:39                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-13 18:43                     ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:49                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-13 18:54                         ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 22:09                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-14 14:30                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 14:49                             ` Larry Finger
2007-11-18 12:44                   ` size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Pavel Machek
2007-11-18 12:58                     ` Rene Herman
2007-11-18 14:35                       ` James Bottomley
2007-11-18 15:19                         ` Rene Herman
2007-11-18 14:56                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-19  4:43                       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-11-13 19:37               ` [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Russell King
2007-11-13 20:18                 ` Mark Lord
     [not found]                 ` <473A067F.3090007@rtr.ca>
2007-11-13 21:33                   ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-13 21:56                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 22:24                       ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-13 22:43                         ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 22:29                     ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 23:40                   ` Russell King
2007-11-14  1:56                     ` David Miller
2007-11-14  0:34               ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-13 16:55             ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 14:08               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 17:38                 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 18:23                   ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                     ` <18235.46083.293604.560507@notabene.brown>
2007-11-16  0:05                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-14 20:16                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 20:29                     ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 20:37                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 21:05                         ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 20:35                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 19:56                 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 20:09                   ` James Bottomley
2007-11-14 20:54                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 20:48                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 21:05                     ` david
2007-11-13 11:47   ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-11-13 13:58   ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 14:18     ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 16:08       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-13 16:07     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-13 17:47       ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 17:54       ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 22:46         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-13 23:37           ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:10       ` Russell King
2007-11-13 18:25         ` Alan Cox
2007-11-13 22:34           ` Russell King
2007-11-13 15:21   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-11-13 15:33   ` James Bottomley
2007-11-13 16:43     ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-13 15:36   ` Alan Cox
2007-11-13 17:49   ` Jan Kara
2007-11-13 18:04   ` Russell King
2007-11-14 12:46   ` Jiri Kosina
2007-11-14 13:24   ` Pavel Machek
2007-11-14 14:14     ` Fabio Comolli
2007-11-14 19:52     ` Russell King
2007-11-14  3:20 ` Tobin Davis
2007-11-13  6:42 Natalie Protasevich

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