From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Russell King Subject: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:18:01 +0000 Message-ID: <20071113221801.GF1356@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> References: <20071113034916.2556edd7.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20071113.035824.40509981.davem@davemloft.net> <20071113041259.79c9a8c5.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20071113.043207.44732743.davem@davemloft.net> <20071113193219.GC1356@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20071113125222.9eb53ac8.akpm@linux-foundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071113125222.9eb53ac8.akpm@linux-foundation.org> Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Andrew Morton Cc: David Miller , alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, protasnb@gmail.com, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, bugme-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org, linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz List-Id: linux-input@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:52:22PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:32:19 +0000 Russell King wrote: > > There's another issue I want to raise concerning bugzilla. We have the > > classic case of "not enough people reading bugzilla bugs" - which is one > > of the biggest problems with bugzilla. Virtually no one in the ARM > > community looks for ARM bugs in bugzilla. > > Nor should they. So what you're saying is... > > Let's not forget that it would be a waste of time for people to manually > > check bugzilla for ARM bugs. There's soo few people reporting ARM bugs > > into bugzilla that a weekly manual check by every maintainer would just > > return the same old boring results for months and months at a time. > > I screen all bugzilla reports. 100% of them. > > - I'll try to establish whether it is a regression > > - I'll solicit any extra information which I believe the reveloper will need > > - I'll ensure that an appropriate developer has seen the report > > And yes, the number of arm-specific reports in there is very small. that just because you do this everyone in a select clique, who you include me in, should be doing this as well. No. Thank. You. > > It would be far more productive if the ARM category was deleted from > > bugzilla and the few people who use bugzilla reported their bugs on the > > mailing list. We've a couple of thousand people on the ARM kernel > > mailing list at the moment - that's 3 orders of magnitude more of eyes > > than look at bugzilla. > > Is that linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk? Yes. > If so, MANITAINERS claims that it is subscribers-only. That would cause > some bug reporters to give up and go away. Find some other mailing list; I'm not hosting *nor* am I willing to run a non-subscribers only mailing list. Period. Not negotiable, so don't even try to change my mind. -- Russell King Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ maintainer of: