From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
protasnb@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, bugme-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org,
linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz
Subject: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:55:07 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071114095507.GA32595@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071113.175551.131375600.davem@davemloft.net>
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:55:51PM -0800, David Miller wrote:
> From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:32:01 -0800
>
> > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:18:01 +0000 Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Find some other mailing list; I'm not hosting *nor* am I willing to run a
> > > non-subscribers only mailing list. Period. Not negotiable, so don't even
> > > try to change my mind.
> >
> > Making a list subscribers-only will cause some bug reports to be lost.
> >
> > Tradeoffs are involved, against which decisions must be made. You have
> > made yours.
>
> Russell doesn't have to worry any more, he doesn't have to
> host it, and he doesn't have to be willing to run a
> non-subscribers-only mailing list.
>
> Because I am.
>
> I've created linux-arm@vger.kernel.org
By doing so you've just said (implicitly) that you can not tolerate
someone having a different opinion from your own.
While I accept *your* right to run *your* lists how you please, you
are unable to accept *my* right to run *my* lists how I see fit.
Time will tell which lists will survive. Whatever, I suspect that by
doing what you've just done, you're going to create more confusion and
problems. Instead of having one focused place for discussions and bug
reports, they're going to be spread more thinly, meaning less people
looking at such things, meaning more bugs get ignored. Thus making
the issue worse.
So, when are you creating a replacement alsa-devel mailing list on
vger? That's also subscribers-only.
--
Russell King
Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
maintainer of:
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-14 9:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <32209efe0711122242m3a5f081asf1c11a38b24db10c@mail.gmail.com>
2007-11-13 11:15 ` [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 11:24 ` Jens Axboe
2007-11-13 11:39 ` David Miller
2007-11-13 11:49 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 11:58 ` David Miller
2007-11-13 12:12 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 12:32 ` David Miller
2007-11-13 19:02 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 19:32 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 20:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 20:52 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 22:18 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 22:32 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 23:09 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 23:17 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14 1:55 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 2:27 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14 3:47 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 8:30 ` Russell King
2007-11-14 9:55 ` Russell King [this message]
2007-11-14 10:07 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 11:46 ` [alsa-devel] " Rene Herman
2007-11-14 11:56 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 12:01 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 8:25 ` Moderated list (Was: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Takashi Iwai
2007-11-14 12:21 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-14 9:47 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-11-14 23:23 ` Moderated list David Miller
2007-11-14 12:12 ` [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Rene Herman
2007-11-14 12:09 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-14 19:44 ` Russell King
2007-11-14 5:56 ` Sam Ravnborg
[not found] ` <20071114055606.GA5458@uranus.ravnborg.org>
2007-11-14 5:59 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-14 6:13 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20071113201319.GL4250@stusta.de>
2007-11-13 23:29 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 23:38 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 13:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-13 14:08 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 15:24 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2007-11-13 15:57 ` Ray Lee
2007-11-13 17:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 17:50 ` Romano Giannetti
2007-11-13 22:03 ` Frans Pop
2007-11-13 15:52 ` Benoit Boissinot
2007-11-13 16:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-13 17:13 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-13 17:30 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-13 17:33 ` Larry Finger
2007-11-13 18:55 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-13 20:07 ` Larry Finger
2007-11-13 17:56 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 18:57 ` Gabriel C
2007-11-14 0:41 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14 0:39 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14 7:27 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-14 7:46 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14 13:30 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-14 13:35 ` Hannes Reinecke
2007-11-14 18:27 ` Kok, Auke
2007-11-14 23:23 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-11-13 16:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-13 17:50 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:12 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 18:18 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:36 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 18:47 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 19:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 19:12 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 19:30 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 19:46 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 20:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 19:26 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 20:00 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 20:13 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 21:20 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 21:12 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-14 0:52 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-11-14 1:11 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-11-14 2:10 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14 1:10 ` David Miller
2007-11-13 18:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-13 18:39 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-13 18:43 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-13 18:54 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 22:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-14 14:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 14:49 ` Larry Finger
2007-11-18 12:44 ` size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Pavel Machek
2007-11-18 12:58 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-18 14:35 ` James Bottomley
2007-11-18 15:19 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-18 14:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-19 4:43 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-11-13 19:37 ` [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Russell King
2007-11-13 20:18 ` Mark Lord
[not found] ` <473A067F.3090007@rtr.ca>
2007-11-13 21:33 ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-13 21:56 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 22:24 ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-13 22:43 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 22:29 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 23:40 ` Russell King
2007-11-14 1:56 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 0:34 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-13 16:55 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 14:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 17:38 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 18:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <18235.46083.293604.560507@notabene.brown>
2007-11-16 0:05 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-14 20:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 20:29 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 20:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 21:05 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 20:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 19:56 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 20:09 ` James Bottomley
2007-11-14 20:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 20:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 21:05 ` david
2007-11-13 11:47 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-11-13 13:58 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 14:18 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 16:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-13 16:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-13 17:47 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 17:54 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 22:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-13 23:37 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:10 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 18:25 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-13 22:34 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 15:21 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-11-13 15:33 ` James Bottomley
2007-11-13 16:43 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-13 15:36 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-13 17:49 ` Jan Kara
2007-11-13 18:04 ` Russell King
2007-11-14 12:46 ` Jiri Kosina
2007-11-14 13:24 ` Pavel Machek
2007-11-14 14:14 ` Fabio Comolli
2007-11-14 19:52 ` Russell King
2007-11-14 3:20 ` Tobin Davis
2007-11-13 6:42 Natalie Protasevich
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