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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	protasnb@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
	bugme-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org
Subject: Re: size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:43:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071119044313.GC15227@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071118145611.GB22622@elte.hu>

On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 03:56:11PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue 2007-11-13 12:50:08, Mark Lord wrote:
> > > Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > >
> > > >for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that 
> > > >years ago bisection of a bug was a very laborous task 
> > > >so that it was only used as a final, last-ditch 
> > > >approach for really nasty bugs. Today we can 
> > > >autonomouly bisect build bugs via a simple shell 
> > > >command around "git-bisect run", without any human 
> > > >interaction! This freed up testing resources 
> > > ..
> > > 
> > > It's only a godsend for the few people who happen to be 
> > > kernel developers
> > > and who happen to already use git.
> > > 
> > > It's a 540MByte download over a slow link for everyone 
> > > else.
> > 
> > Hmmm, clean-cg is 7.7G on my machine, and yes I tried 
> > git-prune-packed. What am I doing wrong?
> 
> "git-repack -a -d" gives me ~220 MB:
> 
>   $ du -s .git
>   222064  .git
> 
> anyone who can download a 43 MB tar.bz2 tarball for a kernel release 
> should be able to afford a _one time_ download size of 250 MB (the size 
> of the current kernel.org git repository). If not, burning a CD or DVD 
> and carrying it home ought to do the trick. Git is very 
> bandwidth-efficient after that point - lots of people behind narrow 
> pipes are using it - it's just the initial clone that takes time. And 
> given all the history and metadata that the git repository carries (full 
> changelogs, annotations, etc.) it's a no-brainer that kernel developers 
> should be using it.
> 
> (and you can shrink the 250 MB further down by using shallow clones, 
> etc.)
> 
> yes, some people complained when distros stopped doing floppy installs. 
> Some people complained when distros stopped doing CD installs. Yes, i've 
> myself done a 250+ MB download over a 56 kbit modem in the past, and 
> while it indeed took overnight to finish, it's very much doable. It's 
> not really qualitatively different from the 1.5 hours a kernel tar.bz2 
> took to download.

Probably that once in a while, we should set up a complete tree in a
tar.bz2 format on kernel.org. It would help a lot of people behind small
pipes. I have been encountering problems with git-clone when the link is
unstable. After the smallest error, it erases everything and you have to
retry from start, which is quite frustrating and expensive.

At least, downloading a tar.bz2 with FTP would be easier and a lot more
reliable. Also, people could download it from their workplace and bring
it home.

Willy


  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-19  4:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <32209efe0711122242m3a5f081asf1c11a38b24db10c@mail.gmail.com>
2007-11-13 11:15 ` [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 11:24   ` Jens Axboe
2007-11-13 11:39   ` David Miller
2007-11-13 11:49     ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 11:58       ` David Miller
2007-11-13 12:12         ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 12:32           ` David Miller
2007-11-13 19:02             ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 19:32             ` Russell King
2007-11-13 20:13               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 20:52               ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 22:18                 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 22:32                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 23:09                     ` Russell King
2007-11-13 23:17                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14  1:55                     ` David Miller
2007-11-14  2:27                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14  3:47                         ` David Miller
2007-11-14  8:30                         ` Russell King
2007-11-14  9:55                       ` Russell King
2007-11-14 10:07                         ` David Miller
2007-11-14 11:46                           ` [alsa-devel] " Rene Herman
2007-11-14 11:56                             ` David Miller
2007-11-14 12:01                               ` David Miller
2007-11-14  8:25                                 ` Moderated list (Was: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Takashi Iwai
2007-11-14 12:21                                   ` Rene Herman
2007-11-14  9:47                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2007-11-14 23:23                                       ` Moderated list David Miller
2007-11-14 12:12                                 ` [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Rene Herman
2007-11-14 12:09                               ` Rene Herman
2007-11-14 19:44                           ` Russell King
2007-11-14  5:56                   ` Sam Ravnborg
     [not found]                   ` <20071114055606.GA5458@uranus.ravnborg.org>
2007-11-14  5:59                     ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-14  6:13                     ` David Miller
     [not found]               ` <20071113201319.GL4250@stusta.de>
2007-11-13 23:29                 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 23:38                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 13:40           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-13 14:08             ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 15:24               ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2007-11-13 15:57                 ` Ray Lee
2007-11-13 17:01                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 17:50                     ` Romano Giannetti
2007-11-13 22:03                       ` Frans Pop
2007-11-13 15:52               ` Benoit Boissinot
2007-11-13 16:49                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-13 17:13                 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-13 17:30                   ` Alan Cox
2007-11-13 17:33                   ` Larry Finger
2007-11-13 18:55                     ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-13 20:07                       ` Larry Finger
2007-11-13 17:56                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 18:57                     ` Gabriel C
2007-11-14  0:41                       ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14  0:39                     ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14  7:27                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-14  7:46                         ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14 13:30                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-14 13:35                             ` Hannes Reinecke
2007-11-14 18:27                           ` Kok, Auke
2007-11-14 23:23                   ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-11-13 16:46               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-13 17:50                 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:12                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 18:18                     ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:36                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 18:47                         ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 19:04                           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 19:12                             ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 19:30                               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 19:46                                 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 20:04                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 19:26                             ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 20:00                               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 20:13                                 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 21:20                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 21:12                                 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-14  0:52                                   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-11-14  1:11                                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-11-14  2:10                                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14  1:10                       ` David Miller
2007-11-13 18:17                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-13 18:39                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-13 18:43                     ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:49                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-13 18:54                         ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 22:09                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-14 14:30                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 14:49                             ` Larry Finger
2007-11-18 12:44                   ` size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Pavel Machek
2007-11-18 12:58                     ` Rene Herman
2007-11-18 14:35                       ` James Bottomley
2007-11-18 15:19                         ` Rene Herman
2007-11-18 14:56                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-19  4:43                       ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2007-11-13 19:37               ` [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Russell King
2007-11-13 20:18                 ` Mark Lord
     [not found]                 ` <473A067F.3090007@rtr.ca>
2007-11-13 21:33                   ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-13 21:56                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 22:24                       ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-13 22:43                         ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 22:29                     ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 23:40                   ` Russell King
2007-11-14  1:56                     ` David Miller
2007-11-14  0:34               ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-13 16:55             ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 14:08               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 17:38                 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 18:23                   ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                     ` <18235.46083.293604.560507@notabene.brown>
2007-11-16  0:05                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-14 20:16                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 20:29                     ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 20:37                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 21:05                         ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 20:35                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 19:56                 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 20:09                   ` James Bottomley
2007-11-14 20:54                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 20:48                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 21:05                     ` david
2007-11-13 11:47   ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-11-13 13:58   ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 14:18     ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 16:08       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-13 16:07     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-13 17:47       ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 17:54       ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 22:46         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-13 23:37           ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:10       ` Russell King
2007-11-13 18:25         ` Alan Cox
2007-11-13 22:34           ` Russell King
2007-11-13 15:21   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-11-13 15:33   ` James Bottomley
2007-11-13 16:43     ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-13 15:36   ` Alan Cox
2007-11-13 17:49   ` Jan Kara
2007-11-13 18:04   ` Russell King
2007-11-14 12:46   ` Jiri Kosina
2007-11-14 13:24   ` Pavel Machek
2007-11-14 14:14     ` Fabio Comolli
2007-11-14 19:52     ` Russell King
2007-11-14  3:20 ` Tobin Davis

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