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From: "Ville Syrjälä" <syrjala@sci.fi>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Richard Hughes <hughsient@gmail.com>,
	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
	linux-acpi <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@redhat.com>,
	linux-input <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matthias Clasen <mclasen@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: suspend / hibernate nomenclature
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:10:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090309151001.GI10127@sci.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090309140009.GA10360@srcf.ucam.org>

On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 02:00:09PM +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 03:52:42PM +0200, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> 
> > If you think this using common sense I think the following would be the
> > most obvious mapping:
> > sleep = STR, hibernate = STD, suspend = preferred suspend mode
> 
> I agree, but this isn't a discussion about user-visible nomenclature - 
> it's a discussion about using the keycodes we have in the kernel. The 
> aim is to ensure that everyone in-kernel uses the correct codes, and if 
> we can do that without breaking existing userspace (even if it means the 
> nomenclature differs) then that's preferable.

I don't think that invalidates my point. There's always the possibility
of re-creating the same mess in the future if the definitions aren't
crystal clear. The less room there is for personal interpretation of the
definitions the better.

I understand that backwards compatibility is critical but perhaps that
is reason enough to create a completely a new set of definitions and
just map the old definitions in the best way possible.

Something like this?
KEY_SUSPEND_TO_RAM
KEY_SUSPEND_TO_DISK
KEY_SUSPEND_TO_PREFERRED

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      reply	other threads:[~2009-03-09 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-02 11:13 suspend / hibernate nomenclature Richard Hughes
2009-03-02 11:24 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-03-02 12:11   ` Richard Hughes
2009-03-03 17:20     ` [patch] add KEY_HIBERNATE and clarify the uses of KEY_SUSPEND and KEY_SLEEP Richard Hughes
2009-03-03 19:53       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-04  8:42         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-03-04 10:54   ` [PATCH] thinkpad-acpi: use correct key names for sleep states in driver Richard Hughes
2009-03-04 10:58     ` [PATCH] panasonic-laptop: " Richard Hughes
2009-03-04 23:58       ` Harald Welte
2009-03-05  9:09         ` Richard Hughes
2009-03-04 11:09     ` [PATCH] DVB-USB: correct the comment about KEY_SLEEP Richard Hughes
2009-03-10 10:31       ` Antti Palosaari
2009-03-04 12:04     ` [PATCH] thinkpad-acpi: use correct key names for sleep states in driver Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-08-18 20:02       ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2009-08-18 20:10         ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-18 20:27           ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2009-08-18 20:45             ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-22 18:02               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-08-19  9:18             ` Ali Abdallah
2009-08-26 11:36           ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2009-08-26 13:43             ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-26 17:52               ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2009-08-26 22:51                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-08-27  6:18                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-08-28  0:34                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-03-07  8:37 ` suspend / hibernate nomenclature Andrey Borzenkov
2009-03-07 15:48 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-07 16:41   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-03-07 16:48     ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-07 17:17       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-03-07 20:25       ` Richard Hughes
2009-03-07 20:39         ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-08  8:45           ` Richard Hughes
2009-03-08 14:41             ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-08 20:56               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-08 23:07                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-03-08 23:19                   ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-09 13:52                     ` Ville Syrjälä
2009-03-09 14:00                       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-09 15:10                         ` Ville Syrjälä [this message]

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