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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: Alex Chiang <achiang@hp.com>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: synaptics touchpad doesn't click
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:42:19 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091216174218.GC6800@core.coreip.homeip.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091216173159.GA26757@ldl.fc.hp.com>

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:31:59AM -0700, Alex Chiang wrote:
> * Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>:
> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:52:00PM -0700, Alex Chiang wrote:
> > > * Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>:
> > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 06:05:06PM -0700, Alex Chiang wrote:
> > > > > * Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The updated patch is below.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > Dmitry
> > > > > 
> > > > > Should I test this one or wait one more iteration to address
> > > > > Takashi's last comments?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Actually I think we took the wrong direction with the original patch and
> > > > we should do what other buttonless devices (bcm5974) do: report touchpad
> > > > click as left button and have Synaptics X driver provide enhanced
> > > > support. This way we can have both modes (ClickZones and ClickButtons)
> > > > and users will get to chose (provided that someone takes time to add
> > > > that support to Synaptics driver of course ;) ).
> > > > 
> > > > Could you tell me if the below works for you?
> > > 
> > > Left clicks work. Right/middle do not (as expected, I guess).
> > > 
> > > I liked the behaviour of Takashi's patch a little better wrt what
> > > happens when you try to click/drag, because he disabled movement
> > > in the click area.
> > 
> > Are the clicks register only in that special area? Reading Synaptics
> > product description it sounds like entire surface should be clickable.
> 
> Well, maybe in theory the entire surface is clickable.
> 
> My observation is that the physical design resembles a lever on a
> fulcrum though, with the fulcrum at the edge near the keyboard.
> 
> Pressing the click zone is mechanically nice, since you are away
> from the fulcrum. Moving "up" towards the keyboard, there seems
> to be much less mechanical advantage, and the surface doesn't
> seem so clicky.
> 

I am going off the following:

	http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/products/clickpad

I am no sure whether there are 2 different flavors or if they are all
the same and the only difference is whether the buttons are marked or
not.

> But really, I was talking about what Takashi mentioned in a later
> mail, namely that trying to actually click with the click zone in
> a precise manner is difficult because as you press the surface
> down, the touch pad registers some movement, and moves the
> pointer away from the area you're trying to click.
> 
> Fitts would have a fit. ;)

That will have to be handled in synaptics X driver.

-- 
Dmitry

      reply	other threads:[~2009-12-16 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20091214014828.GA28402@ldl.fc.hp.com>
     [not found] ` <20091214173450.GB2373@core.coreip.homeip.net>
2009-12-15  3:41   ` synaptics touchpad doesn't click Alex Chiang
2009-12-15  6:26     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-15  6:40       ` Takashi Iwai
2009-12-15  7:33         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-15  7:41           ` Takashi Iwai
2009-12-15  8:25             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-15 10:19               ` Takashi Iwai
2009-12-15 10:41               ` Takashi Iwai
2009-12-16  1:05               ` Alex Chiang
2009-12-16  2:59                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-16  6:50                   ` Takashi Iwai
2009-12-16  6:56                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-16  7:14                       ` Takashi Iwai
2009-12-16  8:23                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-16  9:17                           ` Takashi Iwai
2009-12-16 17:24                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-16 17:32                               ` Takashi Iwai
2009-12-16  7:16                     ` Takashi Iwai
2009-12-16  6:52                   ` Alex Chiang
2009-12-16  7:03                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-16  7:11                       ` Takashi Iwai
2009-12-16  8:20                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-16  9:14                           ` Takashi Iwai
2009-12-16 17:31                       ` Alex Chiang
2009-12-16 17:42                         ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]

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