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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@who-t.net>
Cc: Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mika Kuoppala <mika.kuoppala@nokia.com>,
	Benjamin Tissoires <tissoire@cena.fr>,
	Stephane Chatty <chatty@enac.fr>,
	Rafi Rubin <rafi@seas.upenn.edu>,
	Michael Poole <mdpoole@troilus.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] input: mt: Document the MT event slot protocol (rev2)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 00:11:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100520071158.GC8080@core.coreip.homeip.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100520001323.GA28116@barra.bne.redhat.com>

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:13:24AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 02:12:14PM +0200, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
> > Peter Hutterer wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:10:29PM +0200, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
> > >> This patch adds documentation for the SYN_MT_SLOT event and gives
> > >> examples of how to use the event slot protocol.
> > > 
> > > thanks, this is really nice documentation! the approach seems good, though I
> > > do have a few questions inline.
> > > 
> > [...]
> > > 
> > > Is there a limit on the number of slots?
> > 
> > The slots are dynamically allocated by the driver, so there is no practical
> > limit. Each slot currently takes 44 bytes, and allocating a few kilobytes of
> > kernel memory is not a problem.
> > 
> > > Will all drivers with ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID use slots? if not, how can I know
> > > in advance if a device may use slots or not?
> > 
> > Eventually, this might become true, but you are pointing at one of the weaker
> > points of the current setup. There is no bit field for the EV_SYN events, so
> > there is no way to know in advance if SYN_MT_SYNC or SYN_MT_SLOT is used. This
> > could quite possibly be added to the EVIO interface. Meanwhile, the method I use
> > is to detect the first SYN_MT_SLOT and select parser based on that information.
> 
> I'd really prefer if there was some way to detect this. While I'm not quite
> sure how the matching X drivers would look like it's likely that the setups
> will be different for drivers that support slots and those that don't.
> e.g. those that don't have slots simply send events as valuators, those that
> do may split into multiple devices.
> 
> Doing this at runtime - after the device has been set up is...tricky.
> 

Right, I think we should try our hardest to allow userspace base
protocol decoding decisions on device capabilities and not the event
datastream. What about moving from SYN_MT_SLOT to ABS_MT_SLOT? I think
it makes more sense since it is not a simple marker but carries data
(slot number).

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-20  7:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-18 20:10 [PATCH] input: mt: Introduce MT event slots (rev 3) Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-18 20:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] input: mt: Document the MT event slot protocol (rev2) Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-19  2:37   ` Peter Hutterer
2010-05-19 12:12     ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-20  0:13       ` Peter Hutterer
2010-05-20  7:11         ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2010-05-20 10:46           ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-20 10:40         ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-24  4:58           ` Peter Hutterer
2010-05-24  6:07             ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-24 10:03               ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-24 15:59               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-24 17:06                 ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-24 17:21                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-24 17:33                     ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-24 17:48                     ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-24 18:04                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-24 19:19                         ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-19 22:43   ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-19 23:34     ` Rafi Rubin
2010-05-20  0:13       ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-20  0:26         ` Rafi Rubin
2010-05-20  0:51           ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-20  1:03             ` Rafi Rubin
2010-05-20  4:18               ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-20  0:21       ` Peter Hutterer
2010-05-20  0:34         ` Rafi Rubin
2010-05-20  7:08     ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-20 22:19       ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-20 22:48         ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-21  3:35           ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-21 15:19         ` Rafi Rubin
2010-05-21 15:40           ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-21 21:25             ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-22  3:10               ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-24  5:25               ` Peter Hutterer
2010-05-24  5:48                 ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-24  6:15                   ` Peter Hutterer
2010-05-24  9:49                     ` Henrik Rydberg

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