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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: Ping Cheng <pinglinux@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@who-t.net>,
	Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mika Kuoppala <mika.kuoppala@nokia.com>,
	Benjamin Tissoires <tissoire@cena.fr>,
	Stephane Chatty <chatty@enac.fr>,
	Rafi Rubin <rafi@seas.upenn.edu>,
	Michael Poole <mdpoole@troilus.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] input: mt: Document the MT event slot protocol (rev2)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 10:21:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201005241021.02731.dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin9ahtqL7jrUP4C0zF9-P3rUg7ktN93-hcqdDnj@mail.gmail.com>

On Monday 24 May 2010 10:06:15 am Ping Cheng wrote:
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Dmitry Torokhov
> 
> <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:07:27PM -0700, Ping Cheng wrote:
> >> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Peter Hutterer
> >> 
> >> <peter.hutterer@who-t.net> wrote:
> >> >> > And yes, you could add it once we find it's an issue, but by then
> >> >> > someone has already spent time to work around this. And when you
> >> >> > then start sending slot events all the time, you admit that
> >> >> > writing the workaround was just a time waster :)
> >> >> 
> >> >> Work around what, exactly?
> >> > 
> >> > I was referring to having a protocol where processes has to ignore
> >> > contacts already down until they've been there when a contact was
> >> > pressed (and your comment that if this becomes an issue it could be
> >> > added lateron). Now, the ignoring part needs to be written (this is
> >> > the "workaround" referred to above). if you're planning to add it
> >> > later, we need to cater for that part as well then, having two
> >> > implementations depending on the kernel versions.
> >> > 
> >> > but this is just for clarification, it's a moot point anyway given
> >> > that button events have the same behaviour.
> >> 
> >> This topic is outside of the _MT_ protocol discussion.
> >> 
> >> However, it is indeed an issue with all filtered input events, both
> >> for MT and regular ones.
> >> 
> >> I think we need to add an ioctl to enable user land driver/client to
> >> signal the kernel driver to send all events without filtering, just
> >> once. Hot-plugged devices and X driver starts after user has contacted
> >> with the device are two examples that the client would miss filtered
> >> events.
> >> 
> >> Dmitry, do you think it is a valid suggestion?
> > 
> > What about using EVIOCGKEY/EVIOCGSW/EVIOCGABS?
> 
> Those EVIOCs only give us the static values (max/min/supported keys,
> etc.).  We need their dynamic input data here, the actual x, y,
> button, pressure, etc. Am I missing something about those EVIOs?
> 

Yes you are ;) Supported events are reported via EVIOCGBIT, EVIOCGKEY and
EVIOCGSW will return current state of keys/switches. As far as EVIOCGABS
goes, it also returns, besides min/max/etc, last reported _values_ of the
ABS_* events.

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-24 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-18 20:10 [PATCH] input: mt: Introduce MT event slots (rev 3) Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-18 20:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] input: mt: Document the MT event slot protocol (rev2) Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-19  2:37   ` Peter Hutterer
2010-05-19 12:12     ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-20  0:13       ` Peter Hutterer
2010-05-20  7:11         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-20 10:46           ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-20 10:40         ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-24  4:58           ` Peter Hutterer
2010-05-24  6:07             ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-24 10:03               ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-24 15:59               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-24 17:06                 ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-24 17:21                   ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2010-05-24 17:33                     ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-24 17:48                     ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-24 18:04                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-24 19:19                         ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-19 22:43   ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-19 23:34     ` Rafi Rubin
2010-05-20  0:13       ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-20  0:26         ` Rafi Rubin
2010-05-20  0:51           ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-20  1:03             ` Rafi Rubin
2010-05-20  4:18               ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-20  0:21       ` Peter Hutterer
2010-05-20  0:34         ` Rafi Rubin
2010-05-20  7:08     ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-20 22:19       ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-20 22:48         ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-21  3:35           ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-21 15:19         ` Rafi Rubin
2010-05-21 15:40           ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-21 21:25             ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-05-22  3:10               ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-24  5:25               ` Peter Hutterer
2010-05-24  5:48                 ` Ping Cheng
2010-05-24  6:15                   ` Peter Hutterer
2010-05-24  9:49                     ` Henrik Rydberg

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